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Thread: double tap = double crap?

Callaway86
Mon May 31, 2004 1:15 am
#1
OK, i'm seriously let down by my first pistoleer skill. It hits random HAM and doens't come close to the damage of Healthshot2. I hope fanshot is WAY better than this...? Or is it just me?



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gunner4life
Mon May 31, 2004 2:01 am
#2

lol funny title .


regarding fanshot , it is easily the best special us pistoleers get . it has a decent damage multiplier , delay mod is good and best of all it is a cone attack . apart from fanshot the only other worthwhile specials are healthshot 2 and pistol melle defence 1 . stopping shot is only worthwhile for a master pistoleer if they have speed skill tapes , bh pistol mods or a pistol faster then 1.2 speed .


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apheli0n
Mon May 31, 2004 4:22 am
#3
LOL great title yeah stopping shot is a great special, fan shot is awesome Actually they might have changed stopping shot since I was a pistoleer.. but fan shot is definitely awesome



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Bajonett
Mon May 31, 2004 4:31 am
#4

Hm.. Best Pistol Special? "Last Ditch" from Smugglers Dirty Fighting 4







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Randonb
Mon May 31, 2004 9:47 am
#5

You should really be using Kip Up Shot from Marksman if you want to use a random HAM special for some reason, but really Health Shot 2 is the primary special you'll be using for the rest of your pistol totin' life (until something changes, anyway).


I've actually heard that Health Shot 1 has a better DPS at your level, so you should experiment with it.


EDIT: and yes, "double crap" doesn't begin to describe my dissatisfaction with this special

Message Edited by Randonb on 05-31-2004 11:48 AM




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BZebub
Mon May 31, 2004 10:45 am
#6

actually, i'd suggest that you use healthshot1. use that DPS website, you'll probably find that healthshot1 will give you better results for awhile.



yes, doubletap is crap.

Smuggler_Caylin
Mon May 31, 2004 11:07 am
#7




Bajonett wrote:

Hm.. Best Pistol Special? "Last Ditch" from Smugglers Dirty Fighting 4



I wouldn't say that.


Most damaging though. Depending on your situation it can be the best pistol shot, but for me, I prefer a pool specific attack or an AOE. Last Ditch is great for single targets, but you still have random pool dmg.





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WillburWright
Mon May 31, 2004 1:24 pm
#8
It is amazing how fast you can spam HS1! Use that until you get some good speed mods and/or accuracy. I have FanShot, but I still use my HS1, unless I am in Fort Tusken, with outer melees tanking, then I have fun with Fanshot!

ClaudSilverberg
Mon May 31, 2004 2:56 pm
#9
Speaking of Double-tap, I had an idea about it earlier today as I was playing SWG...


Okay, so Riflemen probably shouldn't be able to shoot as fast as a Pistoleer. At least, not at the high end. At the low end, sure. So instead of Double-tap being a crappy special, I think it should be a passive ability like Damage Mitigation. It's end result? It lowers your speed cap. Say everyone gets stuck with a speed cap of 2.0 to start. Carbineers can get that down to, oh, 1.5 with a similar ability, and we can lower it to 1.0 once we get Double-Tap. Anyone agree?



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Kevie
Mon May 31, 2004 3:43 pm
#10




Smuggler_Caylin wrote:




Bajonett wrote:

Hm.. Best Pistol Special? "Last Ditch" from Smugglers Dirty Fighting 4




I wouldn't say that.


Most damaging though. Depending on your situation it can be the best pistol shot, but for me, I prefer a pool specific attack or an AOE. Last Ditch is great for single targets, but you still have random pool dmg.





i agree


stopping shot has the same delay as last ditch

no one uses stopping shot because fanshot has a much lower delay, therefore higher dps

last ditch is only useful till the stun sticks, or when your target is lying on his back after a good pistol whip to the head



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Bridonar
Mon May 31, 2004 7:54 pm
#11




ClaudSilverberg wrote:

Speaking of Double-tap, I had an idea about it earlier today as I was playing SWG...


Okay, so Riflemen probably shouldn't be able to shoot as fast as a Pistoleer. At least, not at the high end. At the low end, sure. So instead of Double-tap being a crappy special, I think it should be a passive ability like Damage Mitigation. It's end result? It lowers your speed cap. Say everyone gets stuck with a speed cap of 2.0 to start. Carbineers can get that down to, oh, 1.5 with a similar ability, and we can lower it to 1.0 once we get Double-Tap. Anyone agree?





Nice idea. Hopefully we get something at least as good as this with the Combat Balance Publish



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JawaJoey2
Mon May 31, 2004 10:55 pm
#12
I just can't get over the title of this thread. Genius.





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Callaway86
Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:39 am
#13
thanks for the info, i just got stopping shot and guess what, I'M STILL USING heathshot1/2. Fanshot better be worth it or i'm dropping this tree for my Bounty Hunter pistol tree.



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