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Zelony

Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:12 pm

I am 2244 in Pistols right now and can take a Enraged Rancor down in 45 seconds with just a DX2 and healthshot 1. I can take level 99 plus enraged rancor missions and solo them. Maybe I don't think I am weak because I have never played a different combat profession, but I still think I am pretty tough. Heheh.

It seems to me that maybe we aren't so much weak as the others are overpowered? Don't know, but I am enjoying Pistols. I was a master Smuggler but have dropped most of it to pursue Creature Handler.

Just my thoughts.

Cdrive on Eclipse

Katana_Blade

Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:38 pm

#2

yeah man, the problem is master riflemen and SOME not many other professions can take ERs down in like 10 seconds....Also, I think the biggest beef most of us have with pistoleer is PvP.

Whats Worse than grinding a profession?
Grinding a broken proffesion.

pnjpenguin

Fri Jun 18, 2004 5:05 pm

#3

I don't think pistoleer is particularly weak. Enraged Rancor lairs were not meant to be soloed, and I can do that with ease. The problem is that other professions like riflman is overpowered.

Ovin Lightheart
Commanding Officer, Draconis Equites
Ultimate Guide to Pistoleer PvP

TechBoss

Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:07 pm

#4

Until you fight something with medium or heavy armor, your not going to see a huge problem with Pistoleer. Problems also arrise when you fight something with high resists to acid or energy and light armor. Enraged rancors are only light armor and 30% resist to acid. Try a NS Elder or Protector, even in a group and see how much damage we do.

NS Protector against a Pistoleer:

Medium armor, 5% resist tokinetic and blast

Striker is the prefered weapon, unless your a commando, and averages about 100 damage

Striker will hit for 35.625 damage on average

NS Protector against a Swordsman:

Medium armor, 5% resist tokinetic and blast

Scytheis the prefered weapon AP2 and averages roughly 300 damage.

Scythewill hit for 427.5damage on average

Pistoleer would be fine, if the specials worked and it was fast. If the ranged professions were balanced similarly to the melee professions, it wouldn't be a huge deal. Fencer is great for lightly armor opponents and defense. Swordsman is great for heavily armored opponents and has good offense. Rifleman is faster, deals with armor better, has great offense and doesn't lag behind pistoleer in defenses in any way. There is no reason not to be a rifleman as they have all the advantages.

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Ackis

Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:02 pm

#5

I'm currently 0/0/1/3 Pistoleer, and I'm finding that it'd be quicker to kill things with novice brawler.

Imperial Captain Ackis Losackego - Über f335h

Ianril

Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:22 am

#6

Ackis wrote:

I'm currently 0/0/1/3 Pistoleer, and I'm finding that it'd be quicker to kill things with novice brawler.

Stick with it Ackis.... It gets better. At least IMO.

Dirty Hairy

Atreus47

Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:11 am

#7

This thread makes me laugh. I've been a master rifleman, a master swordsman, a master TKA and I'm about to master pistoleer. I can definately tell you pistoleer is a joke. Rifleman kill almost anything, TKMs shred anything that's none-light armored, swordsman is great for taking down high end mobs. It's not that these professions need a nerf (except for rifleman maybe, needs to be slowed down some) it's that pistoleer is so broken and underpowered it's not even funny.

I have 2 accounts, and I did some combat grinding with my main. It was amazing how much more powerful I was even at lower levels then my pistoleer alternate that was nearly mastered.

Vastio
Elder Jedi Knight

Aeden

Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:45 am

#8

As it stands now pistoleer is a complimentary class - it goes well with other things. Alone...well...try to kill anyone in PvP with just pistoleer...

Aeden

Aeden Stormsinger
Formely of VICE, Shadow Alliance
Original RIVAL

Naxet

Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:12 am

#9

I am both .... my main char is a crafter/Master Pistoleer and my Alt char on a second server is a Master Rifleman-wannabe CH (4311). If you exclude the heavily armored targets and consider the others, I can take down anything with the pistoleer that my rifleman can but the pistoleer takes longer andhas fewer shots that will work to choose from. For those that might complain that my pistoleer is also an established Master Weaponsmith I'd like to say that what the pistoleer is carrying are the expirament-gone-wrong that I would not sell. So the Master Pistoleer is doing this with weapons that most of you would not want to use.

Now when it comes to heavy armor, well that is the unique province of the guy with the T21 and cert to go with it.

Master Weaponsmith, Master Artisan, Master Pistoleer - Ahazi

Master Rifleman, Master Creature Handler - Tempest

JawaJoey2

Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:21 pm

#10

"...with just a DX2 and healthshot 1."

Well, that's the problem. The special that you're using to kill rancors doesn't even come from the "Pistoleer" proffession. It's pretty much healthshot1 until fan shot, and then you still suck at PvP. That's why people say pistoleer is weak.

"I'm finding that it'd be quicker to kill things with novice brawler"

That's ridiculous. At pistols II I can kill stuff 10 times faster than with unarmed IV.

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