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Thread: Problems vs center of being and knockdowns

TK1210GT
Thu May 12, 2005 7:38 am
#1

I'm a pistoleer/rifleman master and novice medic. I'm getting slaughtered in 1vs1 pvp when knocked down. They're doing huge amounts of damage before I can get even up after hitting knockdown recovery. what the heck is wrong here? I've got factional recon armor on. Any ideas? By the time I get up usually half to 1/3rd my health is gone.


Also, anyone using Center of Being is like impossible to hit. Are you guys seeing this? Howare we supposed to fight if nothing we're sending their way is landing. And when it does land usually it's doing absolutely minimal damage. I know they are tanks but if you're in the city and having to dodge buildings..they're going to catch up to you..knock you down and you're done.


Maybe I'm just not smart on the tactics, or maybe my 300-450 dps rifles/pistols aren't enough. I dunno. Any suggestions?


Epani

Message Edited by TK1210GT on 05-12-2005 07:49 AM



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Nifty
Thu May 12, 2005 8:18 am
#2

It's because of the lag. In a duel I had with a friend, I didn't know I was knocked down until the next shot had already come in. So by the time I hit the knockdown recovery and popped back up, I was hit with another shot and incapped (just for fun, so no armor or buffs or anything. pretty dumb against a rifle that hits for gobs of damage.)


Warning shot should help against CoB. It drops defense by 80, which will cancel some of the CoB.


Also, they could have ingested some Pikatta Pie to increase their defense, along with some ranged defense buffs as well. There are some good chef foods out there.




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SeraCohw
Thu May 12, 2005 8:24 am
#3
since they got rid of teh icon next to ur name to let u know ur pisture u dont know you are knocked down maybe soemone should point out how much that is need when it comes to lag.
JediMelvis137
Thu May 12, 2005 10:20 am
#4




Nifty wrote:


It's because of the lag. In a duel I had with a friend, I didn't know I was knocked down until the next shot had already come in. So by the time I hit the knockdown recovery and popped back up, I was hit with another shot and incapped (just for fun, so no armor or buffs or anything. pretty dumb against a rifle that hits for gobs of damage.)


Warning shot should help against CoB. It drops defense by 80, which will cancel some of the CoB.


Also, they could have ingested some Pikatta Pie to increase their defense, along with some ranged defense buffs as well. There are some good chef foods out there.





With my TKM alt, CoB is +500 defense for 45 seconds. Doing a -80 debuff won't cut it. My TKM could kill my Pistoleer easily...


EDIT: Can't spell

Message Edited by JediMelvis137 on 05-12-2005 01:21 PM




Melvis (Scylla): Master Pistoleer, Master Bounty Hunter
Ishu (Scylla): TKM, Master Doctor
Givi (Scylla): Master Smuggler, Master Squad Leader
Ockewei (Scylla): Master WS, Master Artisan, Merchant in Training



TK1210GT
Thu May 12, 2005 11:01 am
#5

So are you saying there's no way for a pistoleer to beat a TKMthat's usingCOB?


Epani




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Col. Epani Tesh - Rebel Alliance, REV Division - New Utapau Naboo Detachment


RoundWallKing2
Thu May 12, 2005 11:25 am
#6
It depends on how good your pistol is, My de-10 held up really well, High 400's DPS and 775-1090 damage.



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certifiedandrew
Thu May 12, 2005 11:48 am
#7
You say that you're wearing Recon armor? Well, that's a problem if they're doing kinetic damage.



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JediMelvis137
Thu May 12, 2005 1:07 pm
#8




Nifty wrote:

+500? how in the %*^@ can that even be remotely balanced?


I assume you can immediately use COB again after the 45 seconds is up like BH can with Duelist Stance?






All I know is I am TKM and DOC and until I started using CoB I was healing myself regularly. After CoB I rarely took much damage (PvE) while it was active.


And yes - the cooldown timer is shorter than the effect, so you can keep it running constantly. There might be a few seconds where it goes down while you try to put it back up, but that's all. There should be some penalty for CoB. I felt like a god again. Felt good and bad at the same time.


As a side note, this was against one creature at a time (Bols), my level or 1-2 levels higher than me. This situation would be different when surrounded and tanking for a group (I hope - might have to test tonight).




Melvis (Scylla): Master Pistoleer, Master Bounty Hunter
Ishu (Scylla): TKM, Master Doctor
Givi (Scylla): Master Smuggler, Master Squad Leader
Ockewei (Scylla): Master WS, Master Artisan, Merchant in Training



JediMelvis137
Thu May 12, 2005 1:11 pm
#9




TK1210GT wrote:


So are you saying there's no way for a pistoleer to beat a TKMthat's usingCOB?


Epani





From what I've heard and read, not if the TKM keeps CoB running. Unless one of the Pistoleer specials applies a better debuff to defense or can remove CoB. I have not tested it in PvP though. I was just stating my opinion from playing both characters separately.


And besides - PvP is a whole new ballgame. Player skill is a BIG factor. That and stims/weapons/armor...




Melvis (Scylla): Master Pistoleer, Master Bounty Hunter
Ishu (Scylla): TKM, Master Doctor
Givi (Scylla): Master Smuggler, Master Squad Leader
Ockewei (Scylla): Master WS, Master Artisan, Merchant in Training



DaceRD
Thu May 12, 2005 1:24 pm
#10
im MBH MP , CM 0400


i been testing my template alot on jedi and dueling with friends , i have dueled against many tkms who used cob , and i aint lost to a tkm yet ,


i tend to root them 1st then applie confusion shot and bleed, blind etc them hammer them with the power hits i aint used any CM skills on them .


i think my pistols acc and speed is now at a dimishing effect as i got no more room for tapes , plus my gorax fgw5 ,highcap scatter and dlt40xt all over 550modied dps .


i dont know the ins and outs of how it all works i just hunt for the best stuff i can get and always on the look out for some thing better , and i aint spent a great deal of money on my new template . i find other ranged proffs and jedi way harder then any melee at the mo. tkm is hard i agree but i just keep my distance when fighting them and and keep em stacked
Nifty
Fri May 13, 2005 12:01 am
#11

+500? how in the %*^@ can that even be remotely balanced?


I assume you can immediately use COB again after the 45 seconds is up like BH can with Duelist Stance?





Starsider: Abici Sselof, Master Entertainer, Musician and Pistoleer; Master Pilot
TK1210GT
Fri May 13, 2005 6:25 am
#12
I'd like to know if it's the BH prof then that allows a bit more power against COB. Even with Rifleman it doesn't appear I'm doing any damage or getting many hits..whether I use pistols or rifles. And rooting is only going to work for a small amount of time and then you have a cool down to do it again.


Epani



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Col. Epani Tesh - Rebel Alliance, REV Division - New Utapau Naboo Detachment


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