Pistoleer Archive

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NickHeel wrote:

Long story short: I'm a lazy grinder (heh). So in preperation for the Smuggler revamp (see sig) and the potential for PC bounties on me, I'm stacking some mods. I was curious how well this would work:

Master Gunfighter + 0004 TKA

I'm not looking for an awesome PvP template cause I'd like to keep some of my other skills and not drop into the TKM/Smuggler/Pistoleer template.

What's throwing me is the Defense Acuity in addition to the Pistoleer dodge and how well that would stack. You would get +71 Defense Acuity from that TKA line and you get 105 from Master Gunfighter. So do they just stack(71+105=176 Dodge)?

I'm close to Mastering pistoleer but I don't want to grind out 125k unarmed plus all the combat xp if it's no good.

Mainly looking for Ranged defense versus BHs.

Thanks

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Defense Accuity =! dodge.

They are two seperate things.

My recomendation would be to master pistoleer, DF from smuggler if you don't have it already and meditate line in TK. Nothing survives last ditch for long, especially if you have a sonic blaster for composite people.

Acuity is broken ATM

I'll agree with the previous poster about Meditation, but if you are only wanting one tree then 0-0-0-4 would be your best bet, Defensive Acuity seems to be broken at the moment, but the added ranged and melee defense will help.

You could also do 0-4-0-0 to get the added stacking of Defense vs. states, but I think getting defenses from Fencer would be better in that scenario.

TKA is stupid easy/fast to raise once you hit novice. I would recommend x3xx at least, that gives you melee mitigation 2, and if you get x3x4 then you get a grip of melee/ranged defense mods (62/45 or so I think). You also get unarmedheadhit which, while you're not super poweful speed etc, with a good fast VK might provide a viable option against a HA buffed but low mind opponent in pvp.

Regarding Defense Acuity.. it's broken. I'm almost positive the defense acuity ONLY works when you're unarmed (or with vk) and since all it does is trigger dodge/counter/block.. it's worthless since you can't use any of those using an unarmed weapon. It's a dead horse before it even gets out of the gate I'm afraid.

*EDIT* You might want to check out this character builder to help you easily figure out various templates. Check out the view report for a nice breakdown of what skills etc you get.*EDIT*

Message Edited by Cidem_Relaeh on 04-16-2004 06:13 PM

As a former Master Gunslinger / former Rogue / current Master Teras Kasi, I can absolutely say that this combo rocks...Plenty of skill points left over for other things...I had almost as much fun as Master Commando / Master Teras Kasi, but Commando will always prevail for me because of the cool weapons (Launcher Pistol, Flamethrower, and Rocket Launchers). Too bad Commando, even at Master level, is completely and utterly obsolete and useless...

They both have greatdefenses so, it really is just semantics....

But as I understand it, the defenses DO stack, but they are capped...

I think you may be missing some of the big benefit in TK and Pistoleer defense stacking. TK also has vs. state defenses and vs. kd and posture change defensesthat will stack with pistoleer. I don't think you should undervalue the benefit of a state attack or the benefit of good state defenses.