Pistoleer Archive
Thread: pistoleer templates and krayt dragons
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Stooric
Sat Feb 12, 2005 9:20 pm
#1
well .. topic is prty obvious ... im working toward master pistoleer right now .. 0042 right now but planning to master it fast (i was a pistoleerbefore i left for a while) and im 0040 BH and planning on getting smug 0040 as well ...
is it possible for us to solo krayts ... and if so which krayts are easy/hard ... ive only killed one krayt while i was grinding commando and that was cause it got caught behind some buildings and couldnt hit me ...
what are good skills for soloing krayts or tag teaming them ... can you go toe to toe?? or kite w/ torso and feign death
also ... how do bleeds work now in conjunction w/ feign death ... im used to the days of yore where bleeds too off about 300+ a tick and were cheap hehe ...
any advice would be great ... thanks!
C-H-U-D
Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:33 pm
#2
advice? stop feeding the fire of dabblers. if you're gonna do a profession, or combine professions, (now i know thisis an alien concept toa good percentage of SWG players, bear with me and flame on later if you so choose.)master it. Master BH/Master Pistoleer is a decent combo, as is Master Smuggler/Master Pistoleer. and if you're gonna fight high level mobs, actually fight them, don't use exploits to get krayts stuck, and while not *really* an exploit, don't hide behind FD as a combat tactic while you sit back and watch the mother burn or bleed. FD is a way to keep your sorry ass alive in a sticky situation, not an easy way to kill high level mobs while you take little to no risk. and to answer your question as to weather or not you can solo a krayt with any pistol profession, not without a damn good pistol, the best damn armor ever made, and a hell of alot of luck. you wanted advice, there it is, take it or leave it. this is not a flame, more power to you if you can kill a krayt on yer own. even more power to ya if you can nail a combo of professions with good enough defenses to do so.
C-H-U-D
Sun Feb 13, 2005 2:22 am
#3
Not a retard flaming, just (as i said, not a flame, just my advice), just a guy sick of all the template stacking hoping to be uber. and i agree, pistols aint the way to go for krayts, doc/swords would probably be best short of jedi.
PS: i love the assumptions that people make "Hes the retarted master something who cant make lots of money, or solo any high level mob." both untrue by the way. my feeling would be that this guy here just needs to say things and belittle others to compensate for his own inadequacies. but again, just my 2¢.
PS: i love the assumptions that people make "Hes the retarted master something who cant make lots of money, or solo any high level mob." both untrue by the way. my feeling would be that this guy here just needs to say things and belittle others to compensate for his own inadequacies. but again, just my 2¢.
BeWary
Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:41 am
#4
Light armor piercing, 600 max dam ( very nice DE-10) vs heavy armor, %80 resists and several 100k of ham?
lol, ya. DOT and /feign. Thats about it. Of course DOT dmg don't count to loot rights, so if a single sword or rifle wanders by and insults the Krayt your not gettin rights.
You can go toe-to-toe with a Juvie, only 50k ham, if you are wearin the obligatory %90 kinetic comp and have a nice scatter and /torso, bein dodge capped also helps, as does /intim, but the canyons, giants and ancients are out of your reach if you plan on standing up the entire fight.
rysan
Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:26 am
#5
Unfortunatly mate its true... a master pistoleer is no good for soloing krayt dragons (although juvenile's you can kill easily).
Im a BH 2.4.4.4 and Master Pistoleer using scatter and DE.10 weapons... slaying a juvenile isnt an issue, but the larger beasts areimpossible unless your gonna hide in peoples houses when the big things come running after you - and then prey some swordsman, rifleman or jedi steal your kill.
With a tank to take the beating you will probably do it - but do it slowly, and then youll have to share the loot...
So either way your screwed... although the BH and Master Pistoleer combo is good to take down high end NPC's - ive taken down a 115k ham stormtrooper with a geo pistol, a Tusken Observor and an Mutated Womp rat - ok well the last isnt very good but your better off doing the profession you want to do rather than the one you hear is best.
Thats my penny's worth...
Take it easy.
fishbrains
Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:58 am
#6
if you are pistoleer your best bet for soloing is gonna be juvie krayts. A lower resist to acid makes them the easiest of the krayt family. Your best bet is to pull them away from the rest of the spawn by running this little pull macro I have. do this from your mnax range (64m)
/prone;
/pause 1;
/healthshot2;
/peace;
/pause 1;
/stand;
/stand
This will bleed it and it will aggro you when the bleed hits. The other stuff will remain unaggrod and then it's just a matter of spamming your best DPS attack. If you have novice brawler, intimidate would be a good idea
/prone;
/pause 1;
/healthshot2;
/peace;
/pause 1;
/stand;
/stand
This will bleed it and it will aggro you when the bleed hits. The other stuff will remain unaggrod and then it's just a matter of spamming your best DPS attack. If you have novice brawler, intimidate would be a good idea
bessmert
Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:10 pm
#7
I have MP+BH0040+Smuggler0040+FS melee def+novice commando.
90% composite + grind DE10 385 max.
So, i took canyon krayt with 350K HAM. After 15 mins and several FD it was 300K HAM.
Then pikeman killed it in 5 mins.
So i think, that theoretically i can kill canyon krayt solo before buff ends.
But this will very hard because other proffs, rifle/CM or sword/doc will do this 10 times faster.
IMHO, solo of hi-end mobs not for pistoliers in any template.
90% composite + grind DE10 385 max.
So, i took canyon krayt with 350K HAM. After 15 mins and several FD it was 300K HAM.
Then pikeman killed it in 5 mins.
So i think, that theoretically i can kill canyon krayt solo before buff ends.
But this will very hard because other proffs, rifle/CM or sword/doc will do this 10 times faster.
IMHO, solo of hi-end mobs not for pistoliers in any template.
Stooric
Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:18 pm
#8
C-H-U-D wrote:
advice? stop feeding the fire of dabblers. if you're gonna do a profession, or combine professions, (now i know thisis an alien concept toa good percentage of SWG players, bear with me and flame on later if you so choose.)master it. Master BH/Master Pistoleer is a decent combo, as is Master Smuggler/Master Pistoleer. and if you're gonna fight high level mobs, actually fight them, don't use exploits to get krayts stuck, and while not *really* an exploit, don't hide behind FD as a combat tactic while you sit back and watch the mother burn or bleed. FD is a way to keep your sorry ass alive in a sticky situation, not an easy way to kill high level mobs while you take little to no risk. and to answer your question as to weather or not you can solo a krayt with any pistol profession, not without a damn good pistol, the best damn armor ever made, and a hell of alot of luck. you wanted advice, there it is, take it or leave it. this is not a flame, more power to you if you can kill a krayt on yer own. even more power to ya if you can nail a combo of professions with good enough defenses to do so.
........ most of my comments were questions ... which do not imply i planned on using "exploits" .... dude ... i dont even know where to start defending myself .... if you came across a krayt .. stuck .. would you not kill it?? i dont understand the point .. it wasnt like i lured it there and then killed it ... i was walking along and it was there ..
I am in no way a "cheap" person ... so dont insult me ... the reason you expect a flame from me is because you insulted me ... by insinutating from my one time killing a krayt that i was out for "exploit" ways to kill more ... I have been gone from the game for a long time ... so i asked how FD works w/ bleeds and such ... so i dont use it in a viable setting like you have described only to find out that bleeds now return aggro after im FD'ed
i want to use pistols .. is it my fault that SOE decided to spread out pistol skills thru 3 prof????? i dont WANT carbines .. i dont WANT LLC's ... i dont WANT spices .... my whole point for putting up a post was so people could give me advice about how the prof has changed so i dont DIE trying to kill a krayt
I never once ask someone to critique my template ... so plz . spare me talk of "mastering" a prof when i AM doing so .. i am mastering pistols .. not just pistoleer ... so me mastering all of pistols is a much BETTER way of mastering my prof im my mind than doing what soe wants me to ...
so stop assuming things about someone you do not know at all and acutally READ what i ASKED .... questions are meant to be answered ....you assumed something from my questions and then insulted me about your assumptions
god ... you pissed me off bad mate ... im a nice guy who doesnt exploit and wants to have fun in my game but you have to be rude and assume im some template grinding assmonkey .... jesus ...
Stooric
Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:20 pm
#9
oh and everyone else who posted ... TY for such GREAT advice ... i really appreciate it immensely and it probably will save my life : )
JustAGuyWho
Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:33 pm
#10
First of all a krayt isnt the deathstart. not as hard to solo as ppl seem to think they are. I was a Master Pistoleer/Bh for a long time. I just dropped some of pistoleer. Now 0044 pistoleer, 3040 bh, smuggler 0010, and commando 0040. I can solo a krayt pretty easily even with my horrible defences. 55 melee and like 20 ranged defence
makes me shudder. And dont listen to the retard flaming you for mix and matching proffessions. Hes the retarted master something who cant make lots of money, or solo any high level mob. And with FD you might be able to solo a krayt, not really becuase of burns or bleeds (unless your commando like me
) but because of how your health regains while you are FD. Thats my $0.02, hope it helps you out in what ever you plan on doing.
P.S. and if you really want to just kill krayts, pistoleer isnt the way to go.
dola-brun
Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:15 pm
#11
unfortunately if you are a pistoleer right now it is wise to be a dabbler. as for the person who made the post about dabblers, i would like to know what you did with your spare sp's. if you want medic or tka you are the worst dabbler of them all. at least someone who gets bh/smugg is still relying on pistols. just my 2 credits.
dola-brun
rysan
Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:55 am
#12
It is bad isnt it that SOE have spread our profession across 4... And the worst thing is that Smugglar and BH have the best attacks over pistoleer... its funny, but sad!
Nevermind hey - im dropping pistols and going rifleman, atleast all there skills are in one play...
Have fun and good luck with those krayt!
C-H-U-D
Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:14 am
#13
actually, my template right now is Master Pistoleer, Master Smuggler, Teras Kasi Master, Imperial Pilot Ace, and i'm working on Master Politician just for sh!ts and giggles. Dabbler am i? okay, i'll give ya that one, you're entitled to your 2¢. but hey, if thinking that pocketing my DE-10 every now and again to go toe to toe is fun, makes me a dabbler, alright, that's your opinion, and i can respect that. and i'll even agree with ya on the comment that it's wise to be a dabbler with pistols at the current time. and to whoever it was that i offended, nothing i said was directed specifically towards you, mainly to stackers in general. sure, stacking gives you a good advantage, be it defense stacking or offense stacking. hell, i used to stack offensive skills myself like crazy. but come on now, everyone that's replied to this thread so far, you gotta admit that this game would be hell of alot more fun without everyone and their brother stacking the hell out of every profession in hopes to be "uber". and if i've offended anyone, okay, but that wasn't the intention, if you choose to be offended by something you read on the internet, that's up to you. have fun kids!
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