Pistoleer Archive
Thread: what Pistoleer profession is designed for
This is the type of question TH asked us in the "Pistoleer combat rolls" posts couple months back. But my, and many others, opinion is that we are to be up in close to battle, just behind the melee guys. Thus why we have such high defences of such a wide range. And if you look at the names and types of specials we have, forget if they work or not, it all falls into that roll. Lots of crowd control and aoe attacks.
And actually one of the hero's of the movies that used pistols was a smuggler. Han was a smuggler, not a straight pistoleer.
Given that Carbineer, Rifleman, Teras Kasi Artist, Fencer, Swordsman, Pikeman, and Pistoleer all have exactly the same skill point cost, I would say they should all be on par with each other. That's the goal we are working towards.
Rest assured, ifa developerwere ever to tell me "Well, Pistoleers are meant to be weaker because they have3 other trees to dabble in," I wouldn't accept it as an answer.They haven't said that or even hinted at it and I don't expect them to, but it wouldn't fly.
Message Edited by Randonb on 04-15-2004 01:41 PM
biwan:A master fencer has +90 or more in both speed and accuracy. A master rifleman has +90 or more in both speed and accuracy. A master TKA has +90 or more in both speed and accuracy. And so forth. A master carbineer has I think +65 speed though... a master pistoleer has +74.
If every otherelite weaponprofession has +90 or better in speed... why are carbines and pistols left out?
The answer is... carbines and pistols aren't left out. The bonuses to take these weapons near or over +90 are there... in bounty hunter. Roughly 30% of the bonuses to speed and 40 or 50% of the bonuses to accuracy that exist in the skill set for pistols and carbines, belong to the bounty hunter profession. A BH/Pistoleer or BH/Carbineer has slightly superior speed/accuracy bonuses to another elite weapons profession. But carbineer and pistoleer on their own have 70% to 80% of the speed bonus of another elite profession.
So the game certainly appears to have been set up from the start, such that Pistoleer and Carbineer aren't going to be as good with their weapons as other single weapon elite professions unless the Pistoleer and Carbineer dabbles in BH.
This isn't BH-hate... it's just the way the game is set up. And given the current state of the game, it's perfectly possible to remedy this by just giving pistoleer and carbineer the full +90 speed in their elite professions, non-dabbled, same as everyone else. Why?
Because speeds of over +100 are meaningless, so stacking BH pistol with pistoleer won't let you fire any faster than getting+10 pistol speed skill enhancement clothing would. A BH pistoleer could have +375 speed... and fire no faster than someone with +100 speed.
The key is giving the pistoleer and carbineer the same speed bonus as other professions. It could be done tomorrow, and it wouldn't make the BH pistol or BH carbine builds a single whit stronger.