Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Dodge and Food
Actually, Dodge food has nothing to do with Dodge. It simply makes your opponent more likely to miss when he or she is attacking you. It is misleading to actually use the word "dodge" in the item's description, but that's actually how it works.
By no means is it a flat % increase, either. It has to do with the difference between the factors in your favor (defenses, movement, if you are prone, etc) and the factors against you (opponents accuracy, accuracy buffs, if he is prone). It's a little hazy, but we know that it has nothing to do with dodge, is almost impossible to track, and varies fight to fight.
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Randonb wrote:
Actually, Dodge food has nothing to do with Dodge. It simply makes your opponent more likely to miss when he or she is attacking you. It is misleading to actually use the word "dodge" in the item's description, but that's actually how it works.
By no means is it a flat % increase, either. It has to do with the difference between the factors in your favor (defenses, movement, if you are prone, etc) and the factors against you (opponents accuracy, accuracy buffs, if he is prone). It's a little hazy, but we know that it has nothing to do with dodge, is almost impossible to track, and varies fight to fight.
Im sorry Randonb, but you just utterly confused me as this is the first Ive ever heard of this. If it doesnt deal with your dodge rate, what does it do then? I know that when I scarf down a piece of cake that it at least appears that I am dodging more than normal. When I tried the pudding for the big bonus, the same seemed to hold true as well.
What tests did someone do to back up this observation? Or was it a developer statement? Just seeking a little clarification I guess. Thanks for the information!
It was a developer statement. Maybe I'd better just quote sciguyCO, the Chef Correspondent.
The dodge bonus foods (Air Cake, Pikatta Pie, and Deneelian Fizz Pudding) are not actually giving a buff to the Dodge skill. What they do is add a bonus to the player's defensive skills, which determines whether or not an attack hits at all.
These foods will not cause you to see "creature attacks you but you evade" in your combat spam. They should cause more attacks to miss you completely. If a hit occurs, then any evasion skills (dodge, counter, block) the player has may trigger, but that is separate from the effect of the food.
Since the bonus is addedto the defensive skills of the general to-hit formula, it benefits anyone being attacked, whether or not they have the dodge skill.
The raw benefit you receive would depend on your existing defensive skills (melee/ranged defense, center of balance, etc) and the offensive skills of your attacker (weapon accuracy, bonus from posture, range modifier from weapon, etc). Someone with only 20 in defensive skills may see a large difference after eating a +20 Pikatta Pie. A master of an elite combat profession may see a smaller percentage increase in missed attacks since the Pie's +20 has a smaller contribution relative to their inherent defenses.
Randonb wrote:
It was a developer statement. Maybe I'd better just quote sciguyCO, the Chef Correspondent.
The dodge bonus foods (Air Cake, Pikatta Pie, and Deneelian Fizz Pudding) are not actually giving a buff to the Dodge skill. What they do is add a bonus to the player's defensive skills, which determines whether or not an attack hits at all.
These foods will not cause you to see "creature attacks you but you evade" in your combat spam. They should cause more attacks to miss you completely. If a hit occurs, then any evasion skills (dodge, counter, block) the player has may trigger, but that is separate from the effect of the food.
Since the bonus is addedto the defensive skills of the general to-hit formula, it benefits anyone being attacked, whether or not they have the dodge skill.
The raw benefit you receive would depend on your existing defensive skills (melee/ranged defense, center of balance, etc) and the offensive skills of your attacker (weapon accuracy, bonus from posture, range modifier from weapon, etc). Someone with only 20 in defensive skills may see a large difference after eating a +20 Pikatta Pie. A master of an elite combat profession may see a smaller percentage increase in missed attacks since the Pie's +20 has a smaller contribution relative to their inherent defenses.
Now, does that mean the even if i have no Dodge skills from pistoleer or fencer, and i am not using a pistol or a one handed melee weapon, i get hit less when i eat the dodge bonus foods?
thanks for the info randonb , i gave up on dodge foods because i was certain i wasn't dodging anymore after eating it . this explains it 
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