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Thread: Just got Master Pistoleer so about this Mutli Target Shot thingy then?

Cramar
Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:36 am
#1

Hi guys!


Just made Master Pistoleer! woot!


So , i had fan shot , liked it , learnt how to use it properly ie dont use it when there are more than one bad guys/critters in front of u and u DONT want them all to go medieval on you.


Now i got Multi Target Shot - how does that work?!?


My only experience so far (licks wounds) is with my back to a group of Imperial Stormtroopers - facing a sharnaff - use mutlishot and within 3 seconds i am dead when 10 Imperials shot me in the back!!!!


Can i choose the targets it fires at? is it random? help?


Cramar



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vetght
Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:46 am
#2

My experience thus far is the same. It would be nice if there was some way to mark the targets you want your multi-shot to work on. Instead of every red and yellow blip within reach of a laser bolt.


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Nura
Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:45 am
#3

MTS is what Fanshot currently is.

somehow both got screwed and MTS doesnt even hit a singe target.



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Aladine
Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:55 am
#4

Yea if anyone played DAOC (or any number of other mmogs) you will remember the wonderfully useful, but potentially fatal PBAOE attacks...if used right its a GREAT attack, but more often then not it leaves you dead. You just gotta realize there is a time and a place for MTS...and its not all that often.



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Nura
Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:46 am
#5






electricnomad wrote:

No, Fanshot is Fanshot.


MTPS was planned by GreenMarine the Devto targetthe10 closest targets within a 32 meter radius. Then he got pulled off to the Space Expansion and the shot never got fixed up.


And anyway, the MTPS bug is described up in the sticky currently at the very top of the forum, written in November by Philosopher1976.MTPS hasn't worked since launch.






are you sure?
the description of fanshot doesnt say anything about Multitargets or area attack. and since my MTS didnt hit a sh*t i thought they accidently excahnged them.

Message Edited by Nura on 02-25-2004 02:46 AM



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KaiRan
Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:22 am
#6






Cramar wrote:


My only experience so far (licks wounds) is with my back to a group of Imperial Stormtroopers - facing a sharnaff - use mutlishot and within 3 seconds i am dead when 10 Imperials shot me in the back!!!!






So wait... multishot is basicly "Death Blossom"?(without the- Zurg-killing damage)





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SilentJay1284
Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:28 am
#7

When to use multi:


Attack a lair. All the mobs surround you. Then when you use Multi.





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Scott_Ray
Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:31 am
#8

It is broken, like most of our specials.



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Niklesnitz
Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:34 am
#9






electricnomad wrote:




Nura wrote:

MTS is what Fanshot currently is.

somehow both got screwed and MTS doesnt even hit a singe target.



No, Fanshot is Fanshot.


MTPS was planned by GreenMarine the Devto targetthe10 closest targets within a 32 meter radius. Then he got pulled off to the Space Expansion and the shot never got fixed up.


And anyway, the MTPS bug is described up in the sticky currently at the very top of the forum, written in November by Philosopher1976.MTPS hasn't worked since launch.






Fanshotdoes not do what its description says. Fanshot is supposed to hit ONE target multiple times. But it is more of a cone AOE. Multi-target should work like fanshot does now.I don't likehow MTS works now where it hits everything around you. That is quite rediculous. Only time you would ever use something like that is if you had friendlies killing many things around you, so that you don't pick up aggro from everything you hit.



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electricnomad
Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:19 am
#10








Niklesnitz wrote:



electricnomad wrote:



Nura wrote:
MTS is what Fanshot currently is.

somehow both got screwed and MTS doesnt even hit a singe target.



No, Fanshot is Fanshot.


MTPS was planned by GreenMarine the Devto targetthe10 closest targets within a 32 meter radius. Then he got pulled off to the Space Expansion and the shot never got fixed up.


And anyway, the MTPS bug is described up in the sticky currently at the very top of the forum, written in November by Philosopher1976.MTPS hasn't worked since launch.



Fanshotdoes not do what its description says. Fanshot is supposed to hit ONE target multiple times. But it is more of a cone AOE. Multi-target should work like fanshot does now.I don't likehow MTS works now where it hits everything around you. That is quite rediculous. Only time you would ever use something like that is if you had friendlies killing many things around you, so that you don't pick up aggro from everything you hit.



There are a lot of descriptions in the game that don't match up to what they do. Disarming Shot doesn't disarm. Stopping Shot doesn't stop you. Smugglers don't smuggle. Etc.


But Fan Shot is doing exactly what the Devs said it should be doing way back on October 19, 2003:






Here is a more detailed response from the pistoleer designer (who is reading the thread, btw, so be nice.


Fanshot vs. Stopping Shot:


Problems:


Fanshot is a 4x damage ability.


StoppingShot is a 5x Damage Ability.


Fanshot is gained after stoppingShot.



Solution:


Fanshot has been changed to be a cone attack. So it does less damage, but will hit multiple targets.





[. . .]


-Raph Koster, Creative Director







http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Development&message.id=554019



And FYI, here's the mention on MTPS, from that same message:






MultiTargetPistolShot:

Problem:

It was broken, and kinda confusing.

Solution:

It has been fixed.

Questions:

This move can either target all enemies within 32 meters (truncated to 10 targets), or attack all enemies who are currently attacking/targeting you. The first option is a more effective and useful attack, but can potentially pull enemies that you do not wish to fight. Which is preferable?

-Raph Koster, Creative Director








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phamcar
Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:30 am
#11

Yes it is working for me. But use responsibly or it will end up doing more harm than good



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Nifty
Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:08 pm
#12

So basically, don't use this within 32m of a lair. Kinda like don't use fanshot when you're pointed at a lair.



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electricnomad
Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:14 pm
#13




Nura wrote:

MTS is what Fanshot currently is.

somehow both got screwed and MTS doesnt even hit a singe target.



No, Fanshot is Fanshot.


MTPS was planned by GreenMarine the Devto targetthe10 closest targets within a 32 meter radius. Then he got pulled off to the Space Expansion and the shot never got fixed up.


And anyway, the MTPS bug is described up in the sticky currently at the very top of the forum, written in November by Philosopher1976.MTPS hasn't worked since launch.




"We're dedicating a designer (Green Marine) next week to looking into fixing some of the bigger issues of the smuggler. (Yes, we are also looking at issues with the other professions, the smuggler just seems to be the one needing the most love at this moment)." Q-3PO - September 16, 2003
Great Threads in Smuggler History, Vol. I / Vol. II / Vol. III - Collected Posts by the Devs Concerning Smugglers
***ELECTRICNOMAD RETIRED FROM SWG ON 7 MAY 2004***

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