Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Hmm think a Pistoleer could do this?
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Ostracized
Sun Mar 21, 2004 4:44 pm
#1
"with a good T21 and kneeling you can kill a rancor with strafe2 before it reaches you. they usually drop at about the 15-20 meter mark"
Remark made by a Riflewoman and Creature handler since she didnt quantify the remark with a "and a good pet" I assume this was JUST Rifleman skills... and Master of course.
But... do you think there is a chance that just using Pistoleer Skills and master could take on a Rancor??
SpaceGoat31
Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:48 pm
#2
Not in a million years. Even with exploited and/or pre-nerf pistols, a pistoleer could never come close to unleashing the same amount ofdamage thatan averagerifleman can. Most of all, it's our lack of any armor piercing above level 1 that really makes us useless - a feeling I'm sure all pistoleers have felt far more often than their rifleman counterparts.
The inbalance between thesetwo professions which both require the same skill points to learn is as frustrating for us as it is laughable to those looking in from the outside. I can't blame them for questioning our reasoning for sticking with this broken and useless profession, when we cando a 1:1 trade to be a rifleman. It's pretty sad when hunting big game in a group, you end up not even firing your pistol in favor of medic support because your few novice medic skills are worth more to the tiny group than your entire pistoleer profession.
The only reason most of us stay is because we're just not interested in grinding another profession or we remain hopeful that someday we'll get fixed. We obviously hope foolishly, considering the devs haven't even managed to change the description of fan shot to reflect their initial changes to it they made back in OCTOBER, a fix which shouldn't involve changing more than one line of code! This is inexcusably bad programming, especially for an MMRPG which by it's complex nature demands strong data integrity. So it's the simple fixes like this that never happen and really make one have to question the competency and/or interest of the developers to do anything about our profession.
farmersckn
Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:26 pm
#3
Ostracized wrote:
"with a good T21 and kneeling you can kill a rancor with strafe2 before it reaches you. they usually drop at about the 15-20 meter mark"
No. I don't think a pistoleer without an UBER DX2 could do this.
Remark made by a Riflewoman and Creature handler since she didnt quantify the remark with a "and a good pet" I assume this was JUST Rifleman skills... and Master of course.
But... do you think there is a chance that just using Pistoleer Skills and master could take on a Rancor??
Absolutely. I am buffed and with armor when I do it, but I am able to take out Enraged Rancor lairs all by myself if I choose too. As a Master Pistoleer, ERs can't hit me as much because of the dodge mods and when they do it doesn't hurt so bad with buffs and armor. As far as dealing damage in a group... LOL.. I would consider myself an xp stealer in a group. I consistently take in 4.5k - 5k xp per rancor using only Pistoleer specials. That would indicate to me that I am a big part of the group, although I could just be hitting a cap in xp that everyone else is hitting as well.
gunner4life
Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:00 pm
#4
genrally speaking any combat elite ( with buffage + food + good armor ) can take on pretty much any mob in the game . however professions such as pistoleer will always struggle against mobs which are medium armor and have heavy resists . as a master pistoleer + 0 4 4 0 doc , i managed to make it all the way into aklays cave and back out all by myself without getting killed even once.
our major shortcomings are in pvp , back in the days when most players were unbuffed and/or unarmored , we did just fine because a few stopping shots with a nice pistol was all it took . however against a armored and buffed oppenent the firepower which a pistoleer has just isn't enough ( unless you have a great geo sonic blaster ).
Bingu
Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:09 pm
#5
Its possible to solo rancors definitely, but not drop em before they get close - I've even managed one or two without doc buffs and im only 4-2-4-3, but i was hopped up on accagarrm, brandy, air cake,and won wons 
CederickF
Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:30 pm
#6
so general consensus is: yes, as long as you're all hopped up on goofballs. goofballs, surgery, expensive flashy clothes, and a small personal entourage.
*sigh* we've become the yuppy coke heads of SWG.
DuckieX
Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:09 pm
#7
"*sigh* we've become the yuppy coke heads of SWG."
oh man, that's the funniest thing i've read in, like, 38 minutes...
If that's the case, I'd better head down to the library and check out Bright Lights, Big Theed or maybe rent Less Than Zero Parsecs...
HabeasCorpus
Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:53 am
#8
Ostracized wrote:
"with a good T21 and kneeling you can kill a rancor with strafe2 before it reaches you. they usually drop at about the 15-20 meter mark"
Remark made by a Riflewoman and Creature handler since she didnt quantify the remark with a "and a good pet" I assume this was JUST Rifleman skills... and Master of course.
But... do you think there is a chance that just using Pistoleer Skills and master could take on a Rancor??
You'll also notice these titles from common Rifleman threads:
"why can't I solo 3 krayts at once?!?1?!/"
"Need help defeating a PA of 20..."
"I'm upset because we can't do AP4"
"Why don't we have an electricity based Rifle? (cuz we have every othere dmg typ3"
and my personal favorite:
"I'm compensating... Ask me how!"
WookieOgre
Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:39 am
#9
HabeasCorpus wrote:
Ostracized wrote:
"with a good T21 and kneeling you can kill a rancor with strafe2 before it reaches you. they usually drop at about the 15-20 meter mark"
Remark made by a Riflewoman and Creature handler since she didnt quantify the remark with a "and a good pet" I assume this was JUST Rifleman skills... and Master of course.
But... do you think there is a chance that just using Pistoleer Skills and master could take on a Rancor??
You'll also notice these titles from common Rifleman threads:
"why can't I solo 3 krayts at once?!?1?!/"
"Need help defeating a PA of 20..."
"I'm upset because we can't do AP4"
"Why don't we have an electricity based Rifle? (cuz we have every othere dmg typ3"
and my personal favorite:
"I'm compensating... Ask me how!"
lol
This is true. But to be fair almost every profession reguardless of howbroken or fixed they are always has these type of threads. My personal favorite was a Master Rifleman making a thread that the Genosian cave is to easy to solo.....even the boss Alck. He claimed he didn't even get hit using some basic Rifleman skills when fighting Alck. To get through the cave all he used was conceal shot.....the biggest bole crap special there is in the game.
But to answer the question, of course we can take down Rancors solo, buffed, brandy, armor ect..... Almost all creatures at the moment are a joke unless your up against these 20-400k creatures, then were the joke. Remember the creatures were nerfed because of the combat balance, so of course no matter how broken a profession is you should be able to solo 90% of the content in this game (of course until the combat balance which will come in 2005?). Although we can kill Rancors, Engraged ect...., we do the lowest dps. It doesnt make sense that with my pistols I do about 1-2k damage while Rifleman are doing 4-5k damage to the same target at the same speed. But then again a lot of things dont make sense in this game (Bounty Hunter feared.....ha try a Medic who can take down that Bounty Hunter in 30 seconds with 4 moves....throw poison a, b, c...throw disease c)
DarkNexus1014
Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:24 am
#10
WookieOgre wrote:
HabeasCorpus wrote:
Ostracized wrote:
"with a good T21 and kneeling you can kill a rancor with strafe2 before it reaches you. they usually drop at about the 15-20 meter mark"
Remark made by a Riflewoman and Creature handler since she didnt quantify the remark with a "and a good pet" I assume this was JUST Rifleman skills... and Master of course.
But... do you think there is a chance that just using Pistoleer Skills and master could take on a Rancor??
You'll also notice these titles from common Rifleman threads:
"why can't I solo 3 krayts at once?!?1?!/"
"Need help defeating a PA of 20..."
"I'm upset because we can't do AP4"
"Why don't we have an electricity based Rifle? (cuz we have every othere dmg typ3"
and my personal favorite:
"I'm compensating... Ask me how!"
lol
This is true. But to be fair almost every profession reguardless of howbroken or fixed they are always has these type of threads. My personal favorite was a Master Rifleman making a thread that the Genosian cave is to easy to solo.....even the boss Alck. He claimed he didn't even get hit using some basic Rifleman skills when fighting Alck. To get through the cave all he used was conceal shot.....the biggest bole crap special there is in the game.
But to answer the question, of course we can take down Rancors solo, buffed, brandy, armor ect..... Almost all creatures at the moment are a joke unless your up against these 20-400k creatures, then were the joke. Remember the creatures were nerfed because of the combat balance, so of course no matter how broken a profession is you should be able to solo 90% of the content in this game (of course until the combat balance which will come in 2005?). Although we can kill Rancors, Engraged ect...., we do the lowest dps. It doesnt make sense that with my pistols I do about 1-2k damage while Rifleman are doing 4-5k damage to the same target at the same speed. But then again a lot of things dont make sense in this game (Bounty Hunter feared.....ha try a Medic who can take down that Bounty Hunter in 30 seconds with 4 moves....throw poison a, b, c...throw disease c)
Hah... you think they need a disease to take a BH... that's cute
KaiRan
Sat Mar 27, 2004 10:20 am
#11
WookieOgre wrote:
.....ha try a Medic who can take down that Bounty Hunter in 30 seconds with 4 moves....throw poison a, b, c...throw disease c
Favorite Shakespearian SWG moment: Overhearing a PA planning a raid on an opposing faction PA- "Ok, first thing we do we kill all the medics..."
Ehecu
Sat Mar 27, 2004 9:00 pm
#12
You'll also notice these titles from common Rifleman threads:
"why can't I solo 3 krayts at once?!?1?!/"
"Need help defeating a PA of 20..."
"I'm upset because we can't do AP4"
"Why don't we have an electricity based Rifle? (cuz we have every othere dmg typ3"
and my personal favorite:
"I'm compensating... Ask me how!"
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LMFAO! I couldn't help but laugh at that one.
Riflemen do annoy me when they do that, but with Carbineers, it's worse. They appear to think that they are much more broken than we are. I got in a huge fight with my guild leader (and eventually the entire guild 'cause it was on guildchat) about Pistoleers being broken and gimped. My ex-leader (and master Carbineer) appears to think they have two working specials and everything else is broken. For starters, there's a difference between broken, not doing what you think it should do, and only useful to a novice. Secondly, I'm assuming those two working specials are charge shot I and II. Charge shot I and II own the crap out of anything we have. If that's a broken class then I'm surprised simply being a Pistoleer doesn't crash my computer because it's so utterly busted.
Oh, and on the topic of Carbineers, it's laughable that they want to keep their current damage and specials yet be machine guns, at least twice as fast as us (.5 speed cap). The day that happens stopping shot had best be a one-hit kill/ranged DB.
"why can't I solo 3 krayts at once?!?1?!/"
"Need help defeating a PA of 20..."
"I'm upset because we can't do AP4"
"Why don't we have an electricity based Rifle? (cuz we have every othere dmg typ3"
and my personal favorite:
"I'm compensating... Ask me how!"
--------------------------------------------
LMFAO! I couldn't help but laugh at that one.
Riflemen do annoy me when they do that, but with Carbineers, it's worse. They appear to think that they are much more broken than we are. I got in a huge fight with my guild leader (and eventually the entire guild 'cause it was on guildchat) about Pistoleers being broken and gimped. My ex-leader (and master Carbineer) appears to think they have two working specials and everything else is broken. For starters, there's a difference between broken, not doing what you think it should do, and only useful to a novice. Secondly, I'm assuming those two working specials are charge shot I and II. Charge shot I and II own the crap out of anything we have. If that's a broken class then I'm surprised simply being a Pistoleer doesn't crash my computer because it's so utterly busted.
Oh, and on the topic of Carbineers, it's laughable that they want to keep their current damage and specials yet be machine guns, at least twice as fast as us (.5 speed cap). The day that happens stopping shot had best be a one-hit kill/ranged DB.
Message Edited by Ehecu on 03-27-2004 10:01 PM
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