Pistoleer Archive

Thread: What prof's should be(IMHO)

Cardco2
Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:04 pm
#1





RIFLEMANowerful, fast and diferent diseplines that are equal. remove sniper from this and make that a profession that requires MR and MM. rifleman should be powerfulll and the main troops. there should be 2 verieties of them.(ps:snipers use mind rifleman should use action. and hit health.) best all-round soldiers. guns have max range of75 meters.1 grenade sert.

1:the main troops, this would be the first 3 trees. they would be powerfull ,strong, and fast.

the most numerous.

2:support gunners(like in modern times and in the past.) more heavy rifles like the T21rifle.



CARBINEER:Spec-Ops forcess. like paratroopers. hit FAST, hitr HARD pin down enemies and hold buildings like starports with 5-10 troops. weeker guns but faster and more usefull specials, and special super specials to pin enemies down. good speed rather good damage. best soldiers for hit fast and hard attacks. to thin the enemy and hold ground in prep for the mains. costs more SP and XP then rifleman. shoots as far as rifleman with almost equal accuracy.limited grenade use. 2 serts. its special 0-6 metter mellee move were you hit the enemy with the butt of your rifle, or a sharp knife thingy (batana?) equiped on the end.(dangit cant remember the name, how imbarising. )


PISTOLEER: self defence class mainly. costshalf theSPas rifleman. fast and very hard to hit. they are veryu accurat at close range but terible at more than 30 meters. max range is55 meters.

great addition to any class, but not that good alone, has 2 combo disiplines.

1:self defence moves and skills.

2:gunslingers. good in sudden bar brawls, and good at takein g out TKM's.



COMMANDO:same SP as now. heavy weapons experts. all grenades. eisily takes out turrets, and defences. cant take one on one and will die at close range do to the heavy nature of weapons, but wonderfull at 40-65 meters.(like on thje AH hill. own anyone in town with HW barages.


BH:good one on one. same as now, exept better defences and slightly higher accuracy witrh LLC and higher sp costs.


ALL mellee:self defencive by nature,wonderfull combo with any ranged. shorter hit distance with TKM 10 meters. 14 with swordsman and fencer. 18 with pikeman.


SNIPER: 4 trees 2 dedicated to accuracy moves and + bonusses to accuracy and defences.

this prof goes over the defences cap. tho at ranges 30 or lower it has a suddenly drastic drop in accuracy. and is nearly imposible to hit by anyone 50+ meters away.

impecable accuracy, and all weapons have near one hit kill atio's. the best ones kill in one hit easy, buffees take 3. all hits hit mind.theres a ranged DB but it has a40 second per use timer. no speed mods at all.(for balance.) this class is a great support class. and all weapons(eccept the lower level ones) have a max range of 70-85 meters. there would be a slight anti radar skill. you can only see the sniper within 65 meters on the radar when this skill is used. it can be used evry 10 minuts. lasts 8 minuts.


like? or dislike?

Message Edited by Cardco2 on 04-06-2004 12:18 AM

Message Edited by Cardco2 on 04-06-2004 12:18 AM



Chriss Lightstrider
Valcyn
A Rebel

"For God so Loved the world that he sent his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him shall NOT perish, but have everlasting life"-John 3:16

"We came to rescue you."-Anakin
"Good job."-Obi-Wan

NEW Official Carbineer Motto:
"Carbineer...stunning crowds since Publish 7!"
Old Official Carbineer Motto:
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Synkharra
Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:00 pm
#2



You are using to many RL comparisons. you need to go to the movies or use EU as a source and if you were to do that you would find that weapons types mostly used are Carbines and Pistols ( not saying that rifle has no place ), but it seems to me you are emphasizing weaponry on what you know of in your experience of our own modern day weaponry, which is ludicrous. You need to remember these weapons are nothing like what our modern soldiers or Gun owners are using. If you go back to the movies, Han Solo was able to own ST's with just his trusty blaster at his side, according to your view of warfare he would have needed something else to compliment him ( " great addition to any class, but not that good alone " ). Also besides Chewie how many rifles did you see make it's way into the movie. Standard issue for the ST's is a carbine. All I'm trying to say is that all ranged as a stand alone prof should have it's place on the battlefield and your remark that pistols are, " great addition to any class, but not that good alone ", is just a lil unsettling to me.
Keito_Temreh
Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:14 pm
#3

hehe


Weapons in Star Wars are not equivalent to real world weapons of similar names.


Blasters are powered by tobanna gas cartridges, they are not lasers.


The major differences between pistols, carbines, and rifles in the star wars universe are:


Range


Accuracy


Magazine capacity


Speed one can fire the weapon without overheating it


RAMS for short


SWG opted to not have ammunition system< really wished they would have had one, would have limited specials spammed by how much ammo you have on you. However in Lucas's Star Wars these weapons used ammo and did not have unilimited charges to be shot at will.


You will find pistols in the SW universe that are heavy armor piercing


You will find carbines that are heavy armor piercing


You will find rifles that are heavy armor piercing etc... in the SW universe


The major difference in these weapons are their accuracy at ideal ranges and ammo capacity and speed in which the weapon can be safely fired without overheating it.


In other words every one of these weapons has a time and placewhen it is the most powerful.


Pistoleers in the star wars universe were as feared as any fighter. They are more of a front line fighter than a rifleman is, rifleman are long range and are the support fire for the close range fighters, you know the grunts?





Keito Tarmeh Master Bounty Hunter/Master Pistoleer Valcyn : Retired
Brant Hogan Master Combat Medic/Master Carbineer Bloodfin : Retired
Notam Vavaso Master Pilot/Master Carbineer/Master Bounty Hunter Chilastra : Active
Cardco2
Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:29 pm
#4

um! I used to use some of the same arguments as you all, im a carbineer.


no rifles, like the blasteck E-11 RIFLE, clonetrooper DC-15 RIFLE, ect, ect, ect. they are all the main weapons of the main infantry. carbines are not used by manny troops. none accualy in starwars, eccept on rare ocation, but they never had reel SPEC-OPS guys in it so that leaves carbinneer a nice role, and it fits RL to to an ectent.


as for pistols, no main troops used pistols in starwars!!!!!! only officers, scout troopers(light pistols easy to carry), leah, han, and luke. o and Jango fett. but he was well trained.


even Boba Fett used a rifle. the EE3. yes the EE3 is a RIFLE.


o and laser weapons are powerd by gas. calling them plasma weapons is correct, calling them lasers is corect. the lasser blast is focused into a bolt, more powerfull and effficiant in smaller weapobns. there are some beem weapons but they are rare and much harder to build and maintain ossumably.



i win the argument. ps:this ius not even my full level of knoledge. dont try to win,you wont.


pps:i cant spell well, its a disability.




Chriss Lightstrider
Valcyn
A Rebel

"For God so Loved the world that he sent his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him shall NOT perish, but have everlasting life"-John 3:16

"We came to rescue you."-Anakin
"Good job."-Obi-Wan

NEW Official Carbineer Motto:
"Carbineer...stunning crowds since Publish 7!"
Old Official Carbineer Motto:
"I bet I can kill me before you can kill me"
Keito_Temreh
Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:37 pm
#5

Challenge taken and i can spell!


I warn you i watched SW a New Hope before it was called a new hope and when it was in theatres back in 1977.


Read every single SW novel and comic book too.


Did i say pistoleers are soldiers? lol


A gunfighter is not a soldier but no less deadly, perhaps youd like to read about characters like the Infamous Gallandro.


Anyway, Please quiz me oh wise one.





Keito Tarmeh Master Bounty Hunter/Master Pistoleer Valcyn : Retired
Brant Hogan Master Combat Medic/Master Carbineer Bloodfin : Retired
Notam Vavaso Master Pilot/Master Carbineer/Master Bounty Hunter Chilastra : Active
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