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Thread: Question about hitting the speed cap with pistoleer...
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Valden
Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:49 pm
#1
If say I am using a 2.4 spd DX2 pistol, what level of +pistol speed would I need to hit the speed cap? I am wondering if I would hit the cap with this gun if I had quickdraw from pistoleer, and if not, how close would I be? I am pretty sure master pistoleer would cap the speed no problem, but I am not sure I want to do it all the way with my current template. Thanks!
Jpshaff01
Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:54 pm
#2
Master pistoleer does not hit the speed cap, thats something that many people get mixed up on. I'll tell you right now with that gun and quickdraw.
http://killyourpc.org/swg/swg_dps.php?weapon_min=0&weapon_max=0&weapon_speed=2.4&pc_speed=54&class=Pistol
Eugee
Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:57 am
#3
+54 Speed (Stances IV)
NormalShot: x1.0 damage at 1.1 speed
HealthShot1: x2.0 damage at 1.1 speed
FanShot: x4.0 damage at 2.6 speed
LastDitch: x6.0 damage at 4.4 speed
I included LastDitch because I assume you are a Smuggler dabbling for the Pistol Speed. If you're a BH then you'll hit the +100 pistol speed mark and don't have to worry about delay. I don't know if you planned to take FanShot or not, I included it because it's one of the top DPS shots Pistoleers get. As you can see here, HealthShot1 is your best targetted pool shot AND the most DPS you can kick out. FanShot can hit multiple targets, but does less raw damage per second than HS1, and is random pool. HealthShot2 isn't as good as HS1 yet.
+74 Speed (Master)
NormalShot: x1.0 damage at 1.0 speed
HealthShot2: x3.0 damage at 1.2 speed
FanShot: x4.0 damage at 1.5 speed
LastDitch: x6.0 damage at 2.5 speed
If you master pistoleer (or find +20 pistol speed in attachments lol) then HS2 surpasses HS1 for targetted pool damage. BS1, BS2, and BS3 never compare. FanShot becomes the new leader for sheer DPS, but it's only barely more output than HS2, so it's still for popping lairs and multiple targets. LastDitch is actually less DPS than HS2 still. I don't mention StoppingShot, because it's the same delay as LD, but less damage.
If you get to +82 pistol speed (not possible with 54 + 25 in attachments), then FanShot reaches 1.0 speed, and is hands down your highest DPS shot, surpassing HS2 by a wide margin. But it's still random pool, so kill time with either shot will be very similar. Last ditch is more DPS than HS2 still, but FanShot is slaughtering it.
At +85 pistol speed, LastDitch finally passes Fanshot in damage per second, barely. It would be the shot of choice for single target random HAM attacks. It will grossly be outdamaging HS2 at this point, and result in faster kill times.
If you can get to +90 pistol speed, LastDitch hits 1.0 speed and stops improving. The DPS from LastDitch at this point will be double what HealthShot2 is kicking out, and 50% more than FanShot is putting on the table. In short, a metric **edit**-ton of damage output. That's why Pistoleer/Smuggler is a nice combo. No mind shot still handicaps them in PvP but the damage output they can achieve is quite good. Note that a Master Pistoleer with +90 speed and your gun could use StoppingShot at the same 1.0 speed cap, kicking out 83% of the damage the LD does.
Master Pistoleer + TKA (Meditate 4) + Smuggler (Dirty Fighting 4) is a nice combo.
Valden
Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:09 pm
#5
Wow thankyou very much for the excellent post, that helps me out greatly.
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