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Thread: Help me spend my final 12 skill pts

BQfromNY
Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:17 pm
#1

Here is my templete so far:


Master Marksmen

Master Pistoleer

Brawler 4xxx

Scout 4xxx

BH xx4x

Smugler xx4x


I have 12 skill points left. I can either:


(A) Get nov commando and nov medic: This will give me all of the pistol boxes in the game and allow limited healing or


(B) Get BH Investigation III which will allow me to hunt Jedi's or


(C) Something else


Please help me decide. Iam really not sure what to do.


Thxs in advance




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Relifex
Sat Jul 31, 2004 1:00 am
#2






BQfromNY wrote:

Here is my templete so far:


Master Marksmen

Master Pistoleer

Brawler 4xxx

Scout 4xxx

BH xx4x

Smugler xx4x


I have 12 skill points left. I can either:


(A) Get nov commando and nov medic: This will give me all of the pistol boxes in the game and allow limited healing or


(B) Get BH Investigation III which will allow me to hunt Jedi's or


(C) Something else


Please help me decide. Iam really not sure what to do.


Thxs in advance





You CAN get novice commando (which takes 6 SP's) but you CAN'T take novice medic....as all the starter Novice classes (brawler, marksman, scout etc) require 15 SP's

The choice between Novice Commando or BH Inv III is a simple one in my view..... as their for completely different things, and all you have to decide is which you want to do.


Novice commando will be a nice supplement to all those pistol skills you have, with the ability to now do blast dmg - which can come in handy vs certain mobs with weaknesses in that area - and can be especially nice vs Turret's / AT-ST's (if your a reb). The only problem i find with the Launcher Pistol is that if you're fighting with other people who's computers aren't quite top notch, you can cause them serious lag just by firing the launcher pistol - combine that with the fact that most of the NPC's that had lower resists to blast will now require groups, due to the recent changes, can sometimes mean you don't use your pistol because it annoys people so much.I would usually only end up using the launcher when im on my own


BH III is even more specific than Nov Commando if you want to hunt jedi, take it, if you don't want to hunt jedi, don't. The only problem with taking this, is that a pistoleer isn't really the best vs jedi's. The best professions for taking on jedi's are melee...... im no expert on jedi killing - but im of the impression that you'll probably need a decent DE-10 for the kind of dmg you'll need to do.


Hope this helps somewhat.... I can't think of anything else useful you could take....except maybe novice tka, and then 1 box of your choice...perhaps meditate I, or some defences....not really sure how much this would really add though.
BQfromNY
Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:27 am
#3

Thanks for your feedback. However, Iam still more undecided then ever. I have a few new question to help me decide if you or anyone else wants to help.


1) I have never PvP - I simply wanted to grind to the top of my ability to give myself a decent shot. I realize, through reading these forums, that pistols are not the best in PvP. However, Iam still willing to give it a try - IF its fun... Therefore, is Hunting Jedi's fun??? It sounds like a GREAT ideal but I have also been reading about all the griefing thats going on.


2) Since I cant get Novice medic if I go the Commando route what should I get with the remaining 6 skill points IF I decide to go w/ Commando?


Thanks again.



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Relifex
Sat Jul 31, 2004 8:39 am
#4






BQfromNY wrote:

1) I have never PvP - I simply wanted to grind to the top of my ability to give myself a decent shot. I realize, through reading these forums, that pistols are not the best in PvP. However, Iam still willing to give it a try - IF its fun... Therefore, is Hunting Jedi's fun??? It sounds like a GREAT ideal but I have also been reading about all the griefing thats going on.


2) Since I cant get Novice medic if I go the Commando route what should I get with the remaining 6 skill points IF I decide to go w/ Commando?


Thanks again.





You should definately wait for some others to respond im not the best person to talk about this heh, but as far as jedi hunting goes - they tend to either have a guild to help defend them or they group up with other jedi's.....so there are a few things you'll need.... 1)dmg, and for most people that comes in the form of a decent DE-10 2) possibly other BH's to hunt with / chat to etc


Jedi hunting can be fun - it all depends what you make of it....as long as you're willing to suffer set-backs, getting your ass kicked every so often and having to back down and run away when you realise the jedi is in his home town and is a member of the militia heh then it can be fun, and adds something extra to do. The only thing i would say is, that Jedi hunting adds nothing to your pvp ability, and nothing to you're pve ability - it's a skill that gives yourself extra content or even RP opportunities, it's something to do WITH you're current skills, not something that will improve your skills.


As far as those other 6 points if you take commando....well...i can't see anything very useful you could take there...nothing that adds a vast amount to your character, you could for e.g take Flame I from commando, just so you can do a Flame thrower special, but as to how effective that will be.......you'd have to test it...I can't imagine it'll add a lot - especially with the Delay on weapon changing as it won't be yourmain gun at all - it might be a nice addition for pve, but that weapon delaycould certainly be an issue.....and in pvp you'd just miss heh. Taking novice commando is purely for the ability to do blast dmg - the launcher will never replace your main weapon, it's a situational weapon that you may find useful in certain circumstances.


One other point to mention as a side-issue, you can't use the Launcher pistol to Grind pistol exp, it IS a pistol, but it gives heavy weapons exp.


Koth_Ablon
Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:30 am
#5

i am this exact same template. I was also torn on what to use them on so i picked up novice cmdo so i could use the launcher pistol. It was ok, but the uses for it are so limited that i really felt it was a massive waste of points. FYI when i used the last 6 SP to pick up novice TK. Partly because i wanted to look cool meditating and because that was about the only thing to get. Since i got this i have dropped it to pick up investigation 3.



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Bridonar
Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:06 am
#6

I'd suggest TKA, or maybe drop some of your BH skills for novice medic.

First, novice TKA is useful because it gives you meditation, which is not only good to look cool, but has many other uses (to heal BF is I am not mistaken)

Also, I think medic is very valuable, especially if you ever plan to PvE without buffs, or to PvP. But then again, if you wish to PvP, you should take up the investigation tree to hunt down jedi.


Personally, I would go with novice TK.




Bridonar Loca'mir
Bothan
Pistoleer/BH/fencer
Lowca
Relifex
Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:28 am
#7




Bridonar wrote:

I'd suggest TKA, or maybe drop some of your BH skills for novice medic.

First, novice TKA is useful because it gives you meditation, which is not only good to look cool, but has many other uses (to heal BF is I am not mistaken)

Also, I think medic is very valuable, especially if you ever plan to PvE without buffs, or to PvP. But then again, if you wish to PvP, you should take up the investigation tree to hunt down jedi.


Personally, I would go with novice TK.






I don't *think* that Any Level of meditate heals BF does it? Thats something im not 100% sure on....


Also


"But then again, if you wish to PvP, you should take up the investigation tree to hunt down jedi"


You CAN have a PvP template without having the ability to hunt jedi's.....hunting jedi is just an optional extra - it's not a requirement for pvp.

Bridonar
Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:31 am
#8

If I remember correctly, meditation does heal BF. Also, of course you can have a PvP template without investigation III, but it helps to have it. Not only because it is a lot of fun to hunt jedi, also because it offers an alternative to going overt.



Bridonar Loca'mir
Bothan
Pistoleer/BH/fencer
Lowca
DoG18
Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:42 am
#9

Meditating does NOT heal BF. It only heals wounds and stops poison/desiese/bleeds, and it only does that once you get to Meditate IV.




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TashunkaSapa
Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:39 pm
#10

I spent my 12 on Novice Commando and Novice TK... precisely for the reasons others have mentioned (Launcher Pistol and Meditate).




Shaan'ti Hokai (Kauri)
Imperial Pilot Ace/Master Smuggler/Master Bounty Hunter
Master Explorer. Force-Sensitive. HERO OF TATOOINE.
Duedroth
Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:04 pm
#11

I'll throw in something completely different than what others are saying:

You could pick up Slicing 1 (5 SP) and Investigation 1 (5 SP) without novice commando, or

You could pick up Novice Commando (6 SP and blast dmg pistol) and your choice of slicing 1, investigation 1, or heavy weapons 1

The reason for those 3 blocks is that you'll be useful in a bae-killing team. Those are 3 of the 5 skills needed to hack base terminals, and take them away from the opposing faction. The other two skills needed are novice squad leader and novice bio-engineer.

My old template before I mastered Smuggler was this:

Marksman 0/4/0/1 --> pistols line and the /aim ability as well as +2 to ranged def. in ranged support 1
Brawler 4/0/0/0 --> unarmed line
Medic 2/2/4/0 --> first aid, drag incapacitated player, and ability to use StimDs
Smuggler 0/1/4/0 --> ability to slice base terminals and the dirty fighting pistols line
Master Pistoleer --> self-explanatory
Teras Kasi Master --> self-explanatory

I felt that this template served me well, and I destroyed many bases with it. If that is something which you feel compelled to help with, then slicing 1, heavy weps 1, or invest 1 may be useful boxes to attain.



Nathan Bluewater Smuggler and Captain of the Ivory Eagle
Oberon Bluewater Twi'lek Bounty Hunter
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BQfromNY
Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:25 pm
#12

I decided to go up the investigation tree - thanks for all your input.



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