Pistoleer Archive

Last I checked, no 351-701 maximum possible dmg pistol on TC has elemental dmg.

The closest you'll find is the Republic, with a maximum possible max dmg in the mid-600s and "Acid" elemental, provided your target has no specific resistance to acid, it's DPS is close to that of the "701s".

That being said, it is somewhat discerning to see DE-10s in precicely the same range as non-loot, general craftable pistols such as the DX2, and Possiby renegade and DL 44 XT, though to latter two may not be schematics given to WS, I haven't checked. the FWG-5 and High Capacity scatter have also been placed in the 701 dmg catagory, both Kinetic rather than energy, and niether with elemental damage types.

When looking at the wound %s given on TC, there are some minor differences, the renegate at the top of the pack with 2.7, DE-10 takes second place with energy 701s with 1.7%.

All in all, I do agree that a weapon as hard to comeby as the DE-10 deserves some real reason to be so rare and thereby expensive. As it stands now, saving creds by dropping your good Krayt tissue into a DX2 is a more cost effective path to a good "701" level pistol post-CU.

As noted above however, there are still a few weeks left in testing, and all this could be changed before hitting live. Lets just hope that the development team has plans to adjust these maximum damage pistols in comparison to the effort needed to craft and/or wield them.

I wouldn't worry too much yet... If you have concerns, test them then report feedback to the dev's in the CU threads. I would hope that in the end that the DE-10 remains one of the most powerfull weapons of choice. But, until we start seeing adjustments to weapons, I am not going to yet. We just started testing elite professions last week, so I will give it another or two before I start worrying.

Now, if we don't have enough people testing & reporting on our professions weaknesses & strengths, then we only have ourselfs to blame.

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JagdKatze wrote:

I think you guys are missing alot of the point behind the CU if you're hoping that pistoleers (the weakest offense of all ranged profs) will get the 'most powerful weapon in the game'. It might be the most powerful pistol, but I can almost gaurantee you that high-end rifles and carbines wil outdamage it. Especially the finely crafted Master level T21's post-CU.

Hence the new name for Riflemen: "Nukers".

Its going to be funny to watch on the release of the CU when a thousand people certed with pistoleer start complaining because they cant bag an Ancient Krayt by themselves anymore.

You guys are mezzers, defense majors, and very light skirmishers. Not power-players. Your role has changed.

It'd be wise indeed to bear this in mind when it goes live. No more 'pwning for teh winz' going solo with your DE-10's.

Just a Rifleman giving you a friendly nudge in the ribs.

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But their will also be Balance, so even though you and your T21 can do more damage in a single shot, I will get off 3 or 4 shots in the time it takes you to reload and shoot again.. And hopefully the CU will stop any profession from being able to solo a krayt, any krayt... Well maybe not a juvi..

I think we Pistoleers understand that we will not be the damage dealers. But we will be the ones without states stuck on us and be the ones controlling the targets actions. We keep them distracted while others do the damage, but without us the damage dealers will die quick... So, in the end I think/hope that multible professions will be needed to take any high level targets.

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JagdKatze wrote:

I think you guys are missing alot of the point behind the CU if you're hoping that pistoleers (the weakest offense of all ranged profs) will get the 'most powerful weapon in the game'. It might be the most powerful pistol, but I can almost gaurantee you that high-end rifles and carbines wil outdamage it. Especially the finely crafted Master level T21's post-CU.

Hence the new name for Riflemen: "Nukers".

Its going to be funny to watch on the release of the CU when a thousand people certed with pistoleer start complaining because they cant bag an Ancient Krayt by themselves anymore.

You guys are mezzers, defense majors, and very light skirmishers. Not power-players. Your role has changed.

It'd be wise indeed to bear this in mind when it goes live. No more'pwning for teh winz' going solo with your DE-10's.

Just a Rifleman giving you a friendly nudge in the ribs.

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I agree with the other poster in that I hope no one is able to solo ancient krayts or even canyon krayts.

Oh and we're not mezzers. We're disarmers and intimidators. How well do you think your finely tuned master level T21 is going to do when it gets knocked out of your hands with a disarm shot? Then when you do manage to re-equip it, you're hitting for less damage than you're used to because you're intimidated. Not to mention, you'll be using your stun recovery special to recover froma burst shot, unless you just don't want your special move points to regenerate.

It'll be balanced, it'll be fair, and it'll be fun. We don't need to have pistols hit as hard as a rifle when we can make the rifle hit as hard as the pistol.

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JagdKatze wrote:

I think you guys are missing alot of the point behind the CU if you're hoping that pistoleers (the weakest offense of all ranged profs) will get the 'most powerful weapon in the game'. It might be the most powerful pistol, but I can almost gaurantee you that high-end rifles and carbines wil outdamage it. Especially the finely crafted Master level T21's post-CU.

Hence the new name for Riflemen: "Nukers".

Its going to be funny to watch on the release of the CU when a thousand people certed with pistoleer start complaining because they cant bag an Ancient Krayt by themselves anymore.

You guys are mezzers, defense majors, and very light skirmishers. Not power-players. Your role has changed.

It'd be wise indeed to bear this in mind when it goes live. No more'pwning for teh winz' going solo with your DE-10's.

Just a Rifleman giving you a friendly nudge in the ribs.

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Well we arent the best mezzers anyhow... thats the smugglers... anyhow

Its not our weapons which have the low damage capacity as I understand it, its that the specials we get arent about damage increases (such as crit hit) so if oyu pick a solidoffensiveadditional class and see it to masteryou could put out some serious damage. Its all about your other skill points.

I dont know any pistoleers that go out soloing ancient krayts.. we dont have the defenses for it... maybe there are the Pistoleers out there, but I am Master pistoleer/BH pistol 4 and I can even come close to soloing a krayt with me DE-10 and the DWB is still a bloodbath. If a pistoleer has legitimately soloed an Ancient krayt with a pistol I want screen captured proof, because I doubt its validity.

And we arent even defensive.. we are average on defense. At least pistols will have the edge in close combat or so its looking... cant imagine swinging a T21 around in close combat.