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Thread: As of tomorrow, pick up BH pistols 4--you'll thank me later

Announcerharris
Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:49 pm
#1

Tomorrow, the prereqs for noviceBH will only be master marksman/exploration four, which means you can get BH pistols four without abandoning too many of yourdefenses from other prfos, and the increased offense is great in all aspectsof the game.


Tryit out, you wont regret it--





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Ackis
Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:16 pm
#2

What exactly is the increased offense with BH Pistols? Eyeshot, more speed, and accuracy mods correct?



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Ikuza
Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:35 pm
#3

+50 to speed (mostly unnecessary), +50 to accuracy (very necessary), Eye Shot (blind is always good), Bleed Shot (if you like to stack shots), Torso Shot (Fire's cool). If you didn't master Marksman before you also get +10 to accuracy, +5 to speed, and +5 to ranged defense.
l33thaxx0rnam3
Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:19 am
#4

Well, it certainly sounds cool, but is it worth giving up Flamethrower III for?


Is eyeshot that much better than last ditch that it's worth dropping commando for?





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Reb_Archer
Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:20 am
#5

OH YES... Torso is the bomb digidy
DrkSensei
Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:04 am
#6

not to mention novice bh gives you bomb droids...



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Reb_Archer
Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:09 am
#7

yuuuuup... The R4 "Car Bombs"
Mouse "Pipe Bombs"

Mouse droids are ok but try to get R4 models... WAAAAY stronger.
Tonteth
Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:13 am
#8






l33thaxx0rnam3 wrote:

Well, it certainly sounds cool, but is it worth giving up Flamethrower III for?


Is eyeshot that much better than last ditch that it's worth dropping commando for?





Can't last ditch with a FT.


Master pistoleer/novice commando/rogue(smuggler)/and... pistols of BH. you have 6 SP left over.




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Bennifer
Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:17 am
#9

All these uber pistol templets are gonna be worthless when people start combinding jedi skills with normal skills


Another great idea from SoE



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Reb_Archer
Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:22 am
#10

not really... Try testing it then let us know.. Im doing VERY well vs most jedi with MBH / M Pistoleer / Novice Brawler

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starcraftWS
Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:26 am
#11






Reb_Archer wrote:
yuuuuup... The R4 "Car Bombs"
Mouse "Pipe Bombs"

Mouse droids are ok but try to get R4 models... WAAAAY stronger.





I just did a little checking to make sure...


The MSE droid is the only droid model that gets a bonus to the detonation modules. Basically, every detonation module placed in an MSE gets a +10 bonus. And each module has a maximum rating of 10 by itself. So, although you can use any droid model for bombs... MSE are the only ones "tailor made" for them.


Now R2s and R3s could get higher ratings, but they are a much more costly model as they require more subcomponents (R3 even requires factory made parts)



R4 - 3 modules max - 30 detonation power max

MSE - 2 modules max - 20 (+20 bonus for being an MSE) = 40 detonation power max

R2 - 5 modules max - 50 detonation power max

R3 - 6 modules max - 60 detonation power max


The R-series of droids do have their advantages to be used as bombs (higher ham to get to target). But, since your droid can only be incapped not deathblowed (deathblown? ), you don't have to worry aboud losing your droid permanently until you choose to detonate him anyway.


In a related note, it looks like I picked the right time to factory out some exploding droids





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Reb_Archer
Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:37 am
#12

Thats what I ment R3s .. we have a DE in the guild we help with resources and he cranks them.
starcraftWS
Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:17 am
#13






Reb_Archer wrote:
Thats what I ment R3s .. we have a DE in the guild we help with resources and he cranks them.




Nice. I would make detonation R3s if requested, but my clientelle seems to be very happy with the exploding MSEs so far. Keep in mind, the 10 theorecal detonation rating is with perfect materials used.


I can make very good, but not perfect, modules. The modules I can currently make have a rating of 8 (actually 8.5 or more, but we don't see the decimal values). But the +10 that MSEs get counts for a lot. So an R3 with 6x 8.5 rating modules would have a detonation rating of 51, while an MSE with 2x the same modules would have a rating of 37. No two ways about it that the R3 does pack more punch, but MSE bombs do have their niche... much cheaper to the average buyer.


If anybody is on Tarquinas and is interested in any of these MSE bombs, PM me for shop waypoint. I'm in the process of running out a full factory run of them (999 units, if I don't get any of those irritating internal_error_7 factory bug thingies).



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