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Thread: How necessary is ranged weapons support in markman tree for a pistoleer?

deeterfly
Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:12 pm
#1

Im going master pistoleer and Im getting short on points.



Im looking for areas to shave points from and Im thinking the ranged weapons support tree might be a good spot.



One of the main areas to take a loss here would be general ranged aiming. How does this effect pistol aiming. Mind you Ill be a master pistoleer.



Ill also lose warning shot and suppression fire, although I dont use either that much if at all, and losing them wouldnt hurt.



The +2 melee defense Id like to keep, but it doesnt seem like that much.



All in all, is this line worth the 14 points it costs to use it and do you think Ill miss its perks?



Thanks in advance.

Randonb
Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:50 pm
#2

Do you use Supression Fire?






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electricnomad
Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:51 pm
#3

What other professions are you?


If you have decent Melee skills in addition to Master Pistoleer, I'd say go ahead and drop the entire Ranged Support line, especially since you say you almost never use Warning Shot or Suppression Fire.





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JBMat
Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:59 am
#4

I don't have it, in fact all I have in marksman is the pistol tree.


I solo about any animals I want to. Being a Master Ranger helps, the traps are a great benefit. I also solo up to level 40 Imperial missions with no problems, traps don't help there.


When I had the line I never used it, so it went away so I could triple master and still have some points of Medic. Warning shot may have been useful, but there are workarounds.


JB

gedmourn
Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:09 am
#5

I agree with JBMat. For the 14 skill points, it just isn't worth it. Sure, some people lived off the abilities when their characters first started out, but they are easily replaced with the abilities you gain from being a Master Pistoleer. Suppression Fire is replaced by Pistol Melee Defense. Warning Shot isn't as useful on the tougher MOBs that you'll be facing. The +2 Melee Defense you received is easily replaced by the +10 Melee Defense in the Stances line of Pistoleer. And as for General Ranged Aiming, I believe (according to its description) that it only affects your accuracy when you use the Aim command, which I rarely used.



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Massanas
Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:43 am
#6

You don't need the marksmen combat exp line. I dropped it a while back because I was out of points for smuggler and I haven't had a problem without it at all. I hardly ever used the kip up shot and warning shot or any of those shots anymore. Sure when your leveling warning shot is good but once you get up there and have 0 0 4 0 you dont need it anymore.

HabeasCorpus
Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:27 pm
#7

not necessary at all.








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deeterfly
Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:30 pm
#8

Excellent info guys, thanks!



BTW, Im doc 0/4/4/0 but I think I can go master doc now without the ranged weapons



Also, made master pistoleer, so gratz to me!


Shidoshi_eaze
Wed Jan 07, 2004 9:06 pm
#9

With MAster Pistoleer and TKM you should be able to solo an elder nightsister imo. Ranged Support is totally useless for everything except tumbletostanding to help your local doctor.



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GazimusPrime
Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:51 am
#10

Its good for the melee / ranged defences, and Aim bonus, should you use Aim, but pistoleer, dont really need aim, just point an spam, simple enough




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BlackEdge
Thu Jan 08, 2004 7:42 am
#11

I like the ranged support personally.

I used up every single points, nothing left over.

Warning shot is nice, more of a last resort thing, doesn't seem to work as well ike it use to, but it's still a handy thing to usee when you're fighting creatures.

Supression fire 1 kicks butt when you'e with someone that can do dizzy, or even better, a pet with a dizzy attack is nice, great against npcs and in pvp.



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jakesnake
Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:55 pm
#12

I'm a master pistoleer and I dropped that line yesterday. No difference whatsoever. Never used aim, rarely used warning shot or suppression fire, and the meager ranged defence can be easilyrecouped with a minimum amount of dabbling in another combat profession. And the 14 extra SP are great!



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KnightHawk420
Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:05 pm
#13

Worthless? Wow I don't find it worthless.



Supression Fire = Ranged posture change...whats not to love about that? Works rather well. Maybe this is how so many lose they're asses to TKA's....... and why some of us just laugh


Warning Shot = Not the most usefull of specials, but if you need to get agro off someone's ass for a few seconds it works like a charm. But I've also found it good if your trying to mitigate dmg that your taking. Can be good to throw one of these shots in with your normal spam just to save on some hits. Or if something is coming at you.. fire off a suprression fire, when that wears off. fire off a warning shot to buy some ore time.


"Tumble" moves = Putting some tumble moves in a macro is a great way for medics to get xp.... *cough*....






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