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Thread: pistols accuracy against defense stackers

HanDual
Sun May 16, 2004 9:40 pm
#1

i'm a master pistoleer/tkm/rouge/(grinding fencer for defense) with 97 (2 pistol acc. tapes) accuracy and i find that i'm still missing my shots against defense stackers (just got last ditch and hadn't had a chance to stun defense stackers) but at what acc. do i need to consistently hit defense stackers? i don't want to pick up bh pistols to lose my defense. does anyone know?

dorsai78664
Sun May 16, 2004 9:54 pm
#2

I'm not sure if anyone has done enough testing to get a hard accuracy number but in my experience, it will be extremely difficult to get through a stacker's defenses using only the pistoleer skills. That is because of the absence of state attacks. Expert BHs are ineed more accurate but not to the extent of negating a stackers high defense.


My guild had a team PvP training session today where we simply split up into the rebel and imperial members and slugged it out on Vreni Island. The idea was to get in some training and work on tactics. One of the imperials stacks pistoleer and fencer and he was pretty darn hard to hit.


I eventually settled on using /aim; /lastditch; until I could get a stun to stick. After that, I could get in a few licks without his defenses getting in the way. Unfortunately, last ditch is going to cost you. Not as much as Expert BH but it will still cost 15 pts in brawler, 14 for theunarmed tree,6 for novice smuggler, and 14 for the DF tree. You are looking at almost 50 pts to get a ranged stun attack.


The only other real option is to kneel or go prone and use /aim repeatedly.






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Raptor2k1
Sun May 16, 2004 10:16 pm
#3

He alread has Lastditch, so that shouldn't be much of a problem... assuming you can get it to land.



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HettarII
Mon May 17, 2004 5:28 pm
#4

All you have to do is first intimidate them (this cuts their damage by 50% and strips away some of their defenses) then shoot them with last ditch to land a stun state on them (stun cuts their damage by 25% and strips some defenses). After you land those two on them you'll be able to hit them.


A couple jedi told me about the 25% damage reduction stun applies (just thought it cut defenses) last night. Anyone know if it stacks with the 50% reduction from intimidate?



Hettar
HettarII
Mon May 17, 2004 5:29 pm
#5


All you have to do is first intimidate them (this cuts their damage by 50% and strips away some of their defenses) then shoot them with last ditch to land a stun state on them (stun cuts their damage by 25% and strips some defenses). After you land those two on them you'll be able to hit them.


A couple jedi told me about the 25% damage reduction stun applies (just thought it cut defenses) last night. Anyone know if it stacks with the 50% reduction from intimidate?



Hettar
HettarII
Mon May 17, 2004 5:30 pm
#6

Cool my first double post



Hettar


dorsai78664
Mon May 17, 2004 8:36 pm
#7






HettarII wrote:



A couple jedi told me about the 25% damage reduction stun applies (just thought it cut defenses) last night. Anyone know if it stacks with the 50% reduction from intimidate?



Hettar




From what I can see it does. From what I recall leveling unarmed, I could tell a distinct difference between stun, intimidate, and the two used together.





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mafiree
Mon May 17, 2004 8:46 pm
#8

I've got 155 cuz of bh and i still miss, its guna happen but it should happen less



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TarannisBane
Tue May 18, 2004 11:23 am
#9

at this point acc seems to be a joke and not really counted. If the def stacker has a 125 ranged def then were still shafted no matter how high our accurcy is. Also a big issue is that we have 3 different acc. that apply at different times. We have one over all ac. we have one while moving and one while standing. So I havent seen any difference in misses in any state running standing or kneeling. All i know is if I shot at a def stacker I miss. So I use TKA or fencer



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