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Thread: How is pistol speed and accuracy at master

Flatlinedmemory
Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:25 pm
#1

with no BH or master marksman

Im thinking about changing templates and want to include master pistoleer as my ranged prof to save on skill poiunts because I was gonn apick up the defenses anywy

Im kinda worried about its speed and accuracy

The speed seams slow but does it play alright ?

Also what things are most likely to be added during combat revamp (please not what think is cool or what you want, just likly things to be added)

Just wanna know whre the proffession is going (Please dont say the devs dont care about pistoleer , they seam to care equally for most professions) Please dont suggest templates to pick up, I know whats good and what isnt

thanks
Joukahainen
Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:46 pm
#2

When I was a Master Pistoleer/Master CH I used to solo (with a pet) Ancient Bull Rancors with no buff's on. This was using a natural (non-BE) pet. So, I believe a pistoleer can do well in PvE and against creatures. But, most successful PvP pistoleers I've seen have other professions as well, such as BH.







Ecrir Twy'Lar (Lowca)
Master Pistoleer/Master Creature Handler
Rutger Ma'fer (Corbantis)
Master Armorsmith/Master Artisan
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Vriko
Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:18 pm
#3

Speed is teh suck w/out BH.
At least in my experience.
With 10000000 crates of p-ups you might be OK though.
Best of luck!



Master Smuggler :: Master Pistoleer :: Desperado
Cr4sh
Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:47 pm
#4

Master pistoleer feels really fast to me....but I just got it yesterday =D

It also depends alot on the pistol. I'm at work but if I remember correctly Pistol Speed at Master Pistoleer without Master Marksman or BH is +74. Which means the two heaviest specials(Stopping Shot and Last Ditch*) would have a speed about equal to that of the speed of the pistol**.

*Requires Dirty Fighting I(Smuggler)
**Tested using this thingy and weapon speeds of 2.0, 3.0, and 4.0



Jarrol 'Longshot'Krylln==============================Kiru Re'tul
Profession: Tri-Master || Server: Tempest================Profession: Money Maker || Server: Tempest
Master Pistoleer || Marksman 0/4/0/0 || Master Smuggler=====Brawler 0/0/0/4 || Scout 2/0/1/1
Teras Kasi Master || Brawler 4/0/0/0 || Imperial Pilot 4/3/3/3===Artisan 0/0/0/0

Former Master Marksman
Former Master Scout

Vriko
Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:33 pm
#5


Cr4sh wrote:
Master pistoleer feels really fast to me....but I just got it yesterday =D

It also depends alot on the pistol. I'm at work but if I remember correctly Pistol Speed at Master Pistoleer without Master Marksman or BH is +74. Which means the two heaviest specials(Stopping Shot and Last Ditch*) would have a speed about equal to that of the speed of the pistol**.

*Requires Dirty Fighting I(Smuggler)
**Tested using this thingy and weapon speeds of 2.0, 3.0, and 4.0


Yeah, but at +74 pistol speed the DPS for those specials is crap. You're better off using Fanshot and HealthShot2. And for PvP, the BH pistol speed mods are almost mandatory for survival.

Oh, and Last Ditch requires Dirty Fighting IV, not I.



Master Smuggler :: Master Pistoleer :: Desperado
Jeterb
Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:27 am
#6

The accuracy at Master Pistoleer is good, so are Fanshot, Healthshot2 and some of the defenses. Speed might be enough for PvE but I really think BH0030 or 0040 is necessary to get the most out of this profession. With BH0030 you also gain EyeShot which is extremely useful in PvP right now (but might be less so after combat balance/revamp/upgrade).




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"If you are not confused, you are not paying attention."
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RenKesson
Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:25 am
#7

Yes, one of the best things CU could do would be to remove Mind as being the only viable weakness in PvP. Fix Mind so that it's equally valid to attack allHAM pools and I think you'd immediately find Pistoleer -- even in its currently broken state -- to be much more effective than you might think.



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"I've got black magic, a hair trigger, and a short fuse. Bring it!"
-Black Mage
Ternque01
Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:08 pm
#8

Accuracy and speed at master is mediocre. Even if mind wasn't an essential target, pistoleer would still be lacking.



Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
RenKesson
Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:57 pm
#9

I didn't say it wouldn't be lacking, I said it would be more effective than you might think.



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"I've got black magic, a hair trigger, and a short fuse. Bring it!"
-Black Mage
Ternque01
Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:09 pm
#10

Ah so. We do have a nice ability to target health, especially with BH skills. The health damage a pistoleer/BH can do is almost (almost) formidable



Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
RenKesson
Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:28 pm
#11

It'd be l33t if Health was as "weak" as Mind is.



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"I've got black magic, a hair trigger, and a short fuse. Bring it!"
-Black Mage
Cr4sh
Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:16 pm
#12



Vriko wrote:

Cr4sh wrote:Master pistoleer feels really fast to me....but I just got it yesterday =DIt also depends alot on the pistol. I'm at work but if I remember correctly Pistol Speed at Master Pistoleer without Master Marksman or BH is +74. Which means the two heaviest specials(Stopping Shot and Last Ditch*) would have a speed about equal to that of the speed of the pistol**.*Requires Dirty Fighting I(Smuggler)**Tested using this thingy and weapon speeds of 2.0, 3.0, and 4.0
Yeah, but at +74 pistol speed the DPS for those specials is crap. You're better off using Fanshot and HealthShot2. And for PvP, the BH pistol speed mods are almost mandatory for survival.Oh, and Last Ditch requires Dirty Fighting IV, not I.




I agree, HealthShot2 is my spam special. And of course fan shot for groups of enemies kind enough to keep thier distance. And Doh! for the Dirty Fighting correction. I knew that really. But if you got Dirty Fighting I you can basically solo anything that doesn't have a bomb droid =)



Jarrol 'Longshot'Krylln==============================Kiru Re'tul
Profession: Tri-Master || Server: Tempest================Profession: Money Maker || Server: Tempest
Master Pistoleer || Marksman 0/4/0/0 || Master Smuggler=====Brawler 0/0/0/4 || Scout 2/0/1/1
Teras Kasi Master || Brawler 4/0/0/0 || Imperial Pilot 4/3/3/3===Artisan 0/0/0/0

Former Master Marksman
Former Master Scout

Vriko
Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:12 am
#13


Cr4sh wrote:


Vriko wrote:

Cr4sh wrote:Master pistoleer feels really fast to me....but I just got it yesterday =DIt also depends alot on the pistol. I'm at work but if I remember correctly Pistol Speed at Master Pistoleer without Master Marksman or BH is +74. Which means the two heaviest specials(Stopping Shot and Last Ditch*) would have a speed about equal to that of the speed of the pistol**.*Requires Dirty Fighting I(Smuggler)**Tested using this thingy and weapon speeds of 2.0, 3.0, and 4.0
Yeah, but at +74 pistol speed the DPS for those specials is crap. You're better off using Fanshot and HealthShot2. And for PvP, the BH pistol speed mods are almost mandatory for survival.Oh, and Last Ditch requires Dirty Fighting IV, not I.




I agree, HealthShot2 is my spam special. And of course fan shot for groups of enemies kind enough to keep thier distance. And Doh! for the Dirty Fighting correction. I knew that really. But if you got Dirty Fighting I you can basically solo anything that doesn't have a bomb droid =)



lol, more truth in this than there should be.



Master Smuggler :: Master Pistoleer :: Desperado
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