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Thread: A response to the anti-dabblers

Jybisu
Thu Aug 21, 2003 2:06 am
#1



Shape and substance day by day will vanish.
Hair and teeth will gradually fall away.
Always from the days of old men has it been this way
And none born can escape this thing.
- Tai
Jybisu
Thu Aug 21, 2003 2:08 am
#2

Dang.. no edit.



Anyways.. today I was accused of dabbling because I am a pistoleer and I am a medic.


I was accused that it was unfair that I had the skill points to spend and my oppenent did not.


Did I force him to be a Bounty Hunter? Did I force him to master 2 novice professions?


Did SOE force him to?



No. He choose to be a Bounty Hunter. If he don't like, he can change classes.



I spend my skill points how I want.. sorry.. I don't have to spend them they way you want me to.




Shape and substance day by day will vanish.
Hair and teeth will gradually fall away.
Always from the days of old men has it been this way
And none born can escape this thing.
- Tai
NergalMS
Thu Aug 21, 2003 2:19 am
#3

/sigh Yes some people just dont get it yet. SOE wants dabblers, this isnt EQ, DOAC or any other class bassed game. It is skill based which should tell people that they are trying to break the mold of 1 class only characters. The fact is everyone in SW and real life had many different skills and wasnt solely say a storm trooper. Its very reasonable to belive that said storm trooper was also a combat medic since combat medics spend alot of thier time with the soldiers they are assigned to. Is it also not reasonable that the same stormtrooper might have been in some form of rotc in college in order to pay for it. But he wanted to a chef so now you have a storm trooper repaying his debt to the empire but he in essence is a chef as well.



Nergal Milat
Walk with a real man one hundred yards and he'll tell you at least seven lies.
I am Ahab
Cu7
Thu Aug 21, 2003 2:50 am
#4

Ummm... so why did theygivenames to theskill trees then?


Why is there a "master box" on top of each profession?


Why are there professions if everyoneis supposed to dabble anyway?


Why would anyone bother mastering combat professions if we all know that the Pistoleer / BH pistol template is the most powerful anyway?




Cut

Master Bounty Hunter, Gorath
NergalMS
Thu Aug 21, 2003 2:57 am
#5

Well umm dont know if you noticed your one example is a mater in a profession. Not saying you arent supposed to master a profession I am saying it is obvious you are supposed to have the ability to be what ever you want ie dabbling. Whats the point to and the realism even in a game setting of bieng only able to use lets say a sword and nothing else period? Its illogical on every single level imaginable.



Nergal Milat
Walk with a real man one hundred yards and he'll tell you at least seven lies.
I am Ahab
Kamat
Thu Aug 21, 2003 3:15 am
#6

If you only have 2 and are yelled at, I must be public enemy number 1. 5 different classes only 1 master, and I am in the progress of removing skills thoses trees in order to get a 6th class.

Taallyn
Thu Aug 21, 2003 7:01 am
#7

It's a skill based system. Tough for him. "Be all that you can be."
Tiorek
Fri Aug 22, 2003 12:32 am
#8






Kamat wrote:

If you only have 2 and are yelled at, I must be public enemy number 1. 5 different classes only 1 master, and I am in the progress of removing skills thoses trees in order to get a 6th class.







oh my god, you cheater! I hope I never run into you. You're a monster!





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Iorek
SmugglerFlux
Fri Aug 22, 2003 12:46 am
#9






Cu7 wrote:

Ummm... so why did theygivenames to theskill trees then?


Why is there a "master box" on top of each profession?


Why are there professions if everyoneis supposed to dabble anyway?


Why would anyone bother mastering combat professions if we all know that the Pistoleer / BH pistol template is the most powerful anyway?







You are confusing mastery with power. Mastering 1 thing doesn't necessarily make you more powerful than having a bunch of skills and abilities at your disposal.


Moving vertically up abranch should take one to mastery of a specific area. Moving horizontally across multiple branches(aka dabbling when you cross professions) should grant you diversity. Diversity can deliver far more power than mastery. So if you want power, then dabble, if you want mastery then specialize. It's that simple.


Unfortunately the devs screwed up and made it so that some skills can only be mastered by dabbling, which was a horrible mistake.


And it's only fair to point out in a discussion about Mastery, that Pistoleers and Carbineers are the only 2 professions in the game that do not get to master anything, even by achieving their Master box. Sure they are very powerful, and they certainly don't need any more. But they haven't mastered anything substantial as there are other professions that use their weapons more skillfully.




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