Pistoleer Archive

Is body shot 3 worth getting in the pistol grips section of pistoleer? I want to master pistoleer so i can use it in pvp and pve with my maulers. Im just curious bec many ppl say i should go bh pistol 4.. Which is better body shot 3 or torsoshot? Torso sets ppl on fire doesnt it? If it sets ppl on fire like commandos flame does, then i think torso would be better... any inputs? Plz respond tx guys

I can't speak for BH pistol, but at master I really like Body3, the delay is not an issue with the speed mods and with a nice gun you can put big holes in someones health bar with it.

Is BS3 fixed or does it still the same amount of damage as BS2?

It always did more damage, but had a much higher delay and ham cost, makin it less damage over time and not worth the ham. In any case, you should be using neither bs2 or bs3 if you have fanshot. Fanshot >>>> all other pistol moves until you hit the speed cap. Then stopping shot >>> all moves except maybe LD for pure damage. Getting LD down to 1 second a shot is a big point investment tho or a really good fwg (which will be going the way of the DoDo soon.

my advice is to get pistoleer.....dont worry about body shot 3 i never use it....get pistoleer for fan shot

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jangofett10 wrote:
Is body shot 3 worth getting in the pistol grips section of pistoleer? I want to master pistoleer so i can use it in pvp and pve with my maulers. Im just curious bec many ppl say i should go bh pistol 4.. Which is better body shot 3 or torsoshot? Torso sets ppl on fire doesnt it? If it sets ppl on fire like commandos flame does, then i think torso would be better... any inputs? Plz respond tx guys

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TorsoShot is far superior to BodyShot3, if that's what you're asking. TorsoShot not only spits out more damage (3.0 versus 2.5 damage modifier) but it also has an unhealable Flame DoT which is awesome. It's great even in PvE because it stacks with HealthShot1 and 2.

As far as pure Pistoleers go, BodyShot2 is better than BodyShot3 unless you're using a fast pistol at Master. Both are better than StoppingShot if you're a pure Pistoleer, unless you're a Master with a pistol that is faster than 1.0 speed, because StoppingShot is just a random HAM damage special (meaning only 55% of attacks will hit health instead of 100%). As for FanShot, right now it is AOE so it is superior to any of our non-AOE attacks in certain situations.

But don't get too attached to FanShot. From what I've read it has been nerfed on TestCenter. I'll confirm that ASAP.

So, while this isn't the BH forum.. is torsoshot really a targeted health pool shot?

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EasyMcRhinopants wrote:
So, while this isn't the BH forum.. is torsoshot really a targeted health pool shot?

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Most definitely.

Why are we getting nerfed this time for? Again, why are we always getting nerfed? But all honesty, Philosopher, did they even mention why we are being nerfed again for the 6th or 7th time in a row now without a single real fix to our broken/useless specials?

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Bolanos wrote:
Why are we getting nerfed this time for? Again, why are we always getting nerfed? But all honesty, Philosopher, did they even mention why we are being nerfed again for the 6th or 7th time in a row now without a single real fix to our broken/useless specials?

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Frankly I have no idea. I'm going to do my best to get to the bottom of the FanShot nerf -- although I'd like to test it myself on TestCenter first, which I can't do right now. If I don't get access to the Correspondent stuff on TestCenter soon, I'll just start making posts on Correspondent Forum to get to the bottom of this.

That's not really a nerf. Fan shot shouldn't be a AoE shot, but an upgrade of double tap.
But actually I'd rather see fixes on other broken specials than fanshot at every patch...

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Chrysahor wrote:
That's not really a nerf. Fan shot shouldn't be a AoE shot, but an upgrade of double tap.
But actually I'd rather see fixes on other broken specials than fanshot at every patch...

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For Riflemen, an upgrade of Flurry Shot 1 (single target, increased damage) is Flurry Shot 2 (cone AE, increased damage). Also, for Flushing Shot 1 (single target, increased damge) is Flushing Shot 2 (cone AE, increased damage).

For Carbineers, Wild Shot 1 (single target, increased damage, random HAM?) the upgrade is Wild Shot 2 (multiple targets, increased damage, random HAM?).

Does anyone else not see this progression? You take a lower level shot, upgrade it, and add AE. It's the "standard formula" for the other big guns. Why can't Pistoleers get it too?

It's cuz Pistoleers get no love. RHSC syndrome.

Just change it to 'Triple Tap' and keep it AE. Simple, elegant, and in-line.

I'm not sure we were s'posed to get the AOE in the first place, does it seem like sony to pull off a "gift" like that and not make at least some noise about it? Not even mentioned in the patch notes.

Why the endless chain of nerfs?? To be fair a few of them wern't pistoleer only nerfs, but general combat nerfs, or they hit othe proffs harder than us ( kd timer for carbineers).

We did get 3 pistol wip nerfs in a row tho. When there are only the 6 of us left and every other pistoleer has given up 'cause they removed the kd on wip, or made the dealy on stoppingshot 10 sec, or whatever, then we might see love. This is a pathetic attemt at "balance" by driving folks out of our proffesion, instead of having it scaled to other proffesions properly.

As long as we are an "add-on" class we will get no love of our own, dabblers have too much power and buffing up THE dabbler class will only hurt the game further.

Untill we aren't dabblers, no love.....no love means we have to be dabblers to compete....untill we aren't dabblers, no love.....no love means we have to be dabblers to compete. Gah.