Pistoleer Archive
Thread: SWG in 6 Months
Pistol Tactics: you get puny plusses to dodge... so little in fact, lets just call it useless outright... We get PBS2 and PBA2... notice i am ommitting BS3 because, like other pistoleer skills, it is 100% useless... PBS2 is usefull against... well lairs i guess... PBA2?.... ha, yeah right. Do i want to do good (for a pistoleer) damage to one mob, or crappy damage to a bunch of mobs?
Pistol Aiming: Ok... we get bonuses to /aim, which is just a fancy way to waste a round... AND we get bonuses to accuracy... well i guess thats only fair, since we are PISTOLeers after all, and are supposed to be the best with the pistols... oh wait a second... no we aren't... BH's get HUGE bonusses to accuracy and SPEED!!!... ok... so basically... a bounty hunter with all 4 pistol specs is better than a master pistoleer... yeah that seems right...oh! i almost forgot, we get a tiny bonus to accuracy while moving to... nothing acceptable like +50... nah its just +20 for fourth tier aiming....
Grips: Disarm shot... HAHA... ok... double tap...LOL....stopping shot? well i suppose a random pool shot with a huge delay could be good... well actually... i can get 3 BS2's off in the time for 1 stopping shot... hmm... 3 health damage shots for 1500+.... or 1 random pool for 1500+... wow thats tough... Fan shot? all i can say is meh. but hey! we get defense versus posture change and KD!!!.... but wait... aren't those both getting nerfed beyond recognition anyway?
That leaves spec abilities: Hardest tier to climb, and the most fruitless to boot... we get a nerfed, MELEE distance KD... +8 to melee defense... wow... devs sure know how useless that is for a pistoleer... maybe thats why its +8, for padding, to make it look like its doing somthing... Now heres the biggest slap in the face... +24 to pistol speed... 4 tiers of combat exp and we get +24 speed.... and BH gets +50 with 4 tiers of pistol exp... +15 pistol accuracy while standing... does this look like a mistake to anyone? its just been, thrown in there for no apparent reason... like someone rolled 2 dice and got 15, then picked 4 words out of a hat. I guess we are lucky we didn't get carbine accuracy while prone. Last skill from this tree... the utterely useless Pistol melee defense 2... whats it do? umm... does it KD? no?.... hmm... does it target a pool? no?... someone help me out... it doesn't seem to do anything except waste a round
And the creme de le creme... Master Pistoleer... After millions of exp we finally get some better speed... brings it up to +44 (so we need master to get +44, and BH needs 1 tier to get +50) Along with a handfull of other token mods... we get disarm 2!!! yay!!!... at least until the patch... then its BOOOOO... The ONLY skill worth beans in the WHOLE PISTOLEER PROFESSION IS NOW USELESS!!! whats it do? well its in testing... but it doesn't KD from what i gather... and multi target pistol shot... LOL... oh im not even going to say anything about it.
So, in 6 months... in PvP... a group of 20 master pistoleers might... just might be able to kill 1 BH... Im betting the cheff will get some combat skills too... all that time in the kitchen using knives... Hey, in 6 months the chef might be owning PvP with his ranged AOE KD and 5000-9000 dmg cleaver attacks...
When I go on Tusken runs (Which is where I get 75% of my experience), the only special I use the whole time is PBA1 (because I dont have PBA2 yet). When we go for the King, or if a Chief/Warlord and maybe 1 or 2 otheres are the only mobs, i'll use double tap (no Fan Shot yet).
Spamming PBA with 4-5 raiders or commoners around, with everyone attacking them, easily gets me the best exp. I got 140k exp in 1 1.5 hour run through tuskens, using PBA with a 1.2 (75 dps) speed scout blaster. You just have to be careful to not spam it when the number of mobs you'll hit outnumber the amount of group members in attacking with you, because if you do, you'll get a few aggroing you, and you'll probably die fast unless you have medic aid or can escape.
I took down a Wookie BH Master last night and I'm not master pistol yet, 3/4/4/2 as of now. I only lost half my HAMs by the time he was dead. If he had been a better player he could have won, because I assume he had scatter pistol with eye shot. But all he did was chase me through townwhile I kept taking cover and taking potshots to make sure his bleeding kept going. Finally when he was weak enoughI charged him, used knockdown, got 20 meters away, rollshot, BS2 until he got up, then suppress, more BS2 and he was dead.
It's not all in the title, a lot has to do with how you play.
Pretty sad I always use a novice marksman skill (BS2) as my mainstay though.
-- YP
EnigmaticJedi wrote:
You know, i played DAOC for the longest time... and the devs for that game decided on balancing as opposed to massive nerfing... for crying out loud, as the game progressed the classes actually started getting better!!! new attacks, spells, skills and everything! So why is SWG following this doward trend?
Listen please put down the pipe and clear your mind . Daoc has done NOTHINg but cater to the mindless whiners and nerf almost every class one way or the other . Granted some stuff needed to be changed , but they still ended up OVER nerfing plenty of classes . Clerics??? DONE . Now the only good cleric you find is a buffbott . Wardens Bubblenerfed and so seems the class . Bards hahah come on now mezz reduction , which was seen as good by many , was not by them . Berzerkers (left axe) , should of been done when they gave Shaman the Endo buff , but nah we will wait for over 1 yr , then nerf the damage done well over 50% .
See the good thing about this game is they do it right away, most of us know that we are paying for beta and take the nerfs as they come .Some will leave right away crying foul . After 6 months if the nerfs are not done you will see a lot more people gone . No one likes making a class playing it for 6-12 months and then seeing it get utterly ripped apart
I can see it now... After an uncountable number of minor patches, and a dozen major patches... Everyone will be nerfed to the point where it takes a group of 20 to kill a durni baby.... well maybe not a durni baby... but 20 weapon masters to kill a fambaa.
You know, i played DAOC for the longest time... and the devs for that game decided on balancing as opposed to massive nerfing... for crying out loud, as the game progressed the classes actually started getting better!!! new attacks, spells, skills and everything! So why is SWG following this doward trend?
Pistoleer: Ive read some of the posts, and i aggree... whats the point of getting master Pistoleer? Im serious devs, if you think about, there is no point... Take the tiers one at a time...
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RunemonIV hate to disappoint you pal but you'll be back.
And why post here if you have left the game?
Troll?
EnigmaticJedi wrote:
So, in 6 months... in PvP... a group of 20 master pistoleers might... just might be able to kill 1 BH... Im betting the cheff will get some combat skills too... all that time in the kitchen using knives... Hey, in 6 months the chef might be owning PvP with his ranged AOE KD and 5000-9000 dmg cleaver attacks...
Seriously I know im asking to be told **edit** TROLL GO BACK TO BH BOARDS, but why are so-so many of you bitter. Listen man im sry you feel this way but BH are not the uber gods you and many others think they are. Why not instead of sticking to attacks that you spam learn what else you have. Ya you guys are broke but hell so are about every class in this game. Im a BH and ive lost plenty to pistoleers, in the future dont you think the master pistoleer will probaly have dual weild? Are we goin to all scream nerf then? Basically what im saying is why did you turn a what swg will be in 6 months post into another slam against the BH class. You know maybe I should scream nerf smugglers b/c Panic Shot, Low Blow is unfair and I cant win once hit with those. Oh wait im sry, I guess I will be adult about it and just adapt to how others are playing.
Listen man im sry you feel this way but BH are not the uber gods you and many others think they are. Why not instead of sticking to attacks that you spam learn what else you have.
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This from the class which 90% of it's members do nothing but spam eye shot during every single pvp fight.
I won't even go into why people dislike BH's. Simple fact of the matter is, Pistoleers are NOT the master of pistols. Screw AOE KD. Screw everything else. Pistoleers are just vaugely advanced marksman with a few useless moves with a pistol. We're not the fastest, or most accurate, we're just the stubbornest.
Pistoleer/Doctor