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Thread: Ok. Everyone says that fan shot hits lairs....but...

Dinuvian
Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:06 pm
#1

...it doesn't for me. I've done about 60 missions with friends since I got Trickshot a few weeks ago. Every time, I've used fanshot to hit all the creatures at once. And not once has it damaged the lair.


Now, the odd thing is. In my combat spam chatbox, it says I am damaging the lair. But the lair's hitpoints do not go down. I've tested it repeatedly and confirmed it every time. I get messages that I'm doing damage.....but no damage is done. Not to lairs, anyway.


Anyone else have this? Cos I keep seeing people say to beware of using it around lairs.


Just for reference..the lairs in question were primarily Kamurith (Dathomir) and Voritor (Dantooine). I cant remember any others for sure.




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SolrFlare
Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:54 pm
#2

It says it damages the lair in the combat spam...but you won't do actual damage to the lair unless you directly target it. It won't do AoE damage to it. I believe all other AoE attacks work the same way...they show it in the spam...but unless you physically target the lair...you won't really hurt it.



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BeWary
Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:49 am
#3

has anyone tried to pop the lair and have it included in the fan-kill zone? We know fan wont damage anything you haven't already damaged inside the aoe, can you make the lair be included?



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jace1982
Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:31 am
#4

So, do you guys just attack everything once before you use fan? Thats sounds a bit irritating. Have to tag everything first...


BeWary
Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:05 am
#5

Thats how I work it, /bs3, tab, /bs3, tab, /bs3, tab, fanspam till dead.



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Xamyr Epan is a thief



EasyMcRhinopants
Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:10 am
#6

Same deal, fanshot doesn't damage the lair (even if the lair is damaged) if you are shooting at something nearby.


It does damage the lair if the lair is targeted (and hits nearby animals).


You may also notice that sometimes fanshot can sometimes being reported at totally nondestructible buildings, like huts and campfires, by the combat spam window.


It is therefore my conclusion that area attacks are dumb.

Dinuvian
Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:00 am
#7

You don't have to hit every mob first with another attack. As long as a mob is aggro on you, be it direct or indirect (indirect basically means through a pet) you can damage them.


Basically, I send my pet against 1 mob. The other 2 mobs respond so all 3 are on my pet. That lets me use fanshot on all 3. Cos they are all aggro to me, through my pet.


Also, if the lair is included in the killzone while already damaged, it still doesn't take damage. I tested that too.


I'm glad it works this way. It shouldn't hit lairs. I just hope they remove the irrelevant combat spam.




-- Dinuvian Mistwalker --
Bloodfin Galaxy
Master Gunfighter
Inhocmark
Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:36 am
#8

To reiterate: You can hit something but it won't be damaged if it's not already agro'd. After it aggros however it doesn't need to be damaged to take damage.


ie: Last night I was doing Faction missions. These consist of 3 Imperials and a Lair. If there were other creatures around, even if I just targeted an imperial and begun fan shot, I would occasionally hit another creature. That creature would appear to take no damage and would aggro in some cases (most cases but not all). Once it aggro'd then it would damage.



I like that. It forces me to be very careful with where and how I use my fanshot.





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Laeren
Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:51 am
#9

Talk to Riflemen, Carbineers, Smugglers and BH's. They've all been using AE shots since the game started. Pistoleers are just catching up.




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