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Thread: Why choose Mpistols over Msmuggler...

mjPboy
Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:03 pm
#1

is it just me or do smugglers justhave better versions of our moves?



Thinking of swapping over to the smuggler side



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BadgerSmaker
Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:34 pm
#2

Smuggler is a ranged CM, Pistoleer does more damage... faster...



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SioBabble
Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:22 pm
#3

Tazz has been a master smuggler post CU and a master pistoleer.


Pistoleer specials do a LOT more dammage than smugger can. Smugger's skills are all about roots and snares, basically, so it's nice to have in a group, but once they "fixed" concussion shot to break on damage, that was it for Tazz as an MCH/Msmuggler. The root was the key to being able to use aimed shot to inflict damage, and often I could trap a critter in a "hate loop" where it would switch back and forth between my pet and me on who it was mad at. Now that concussion breaks on damage, it's just not practical for solo work. So Tazz went pistols to get the stopping shot and the damage.






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mjPboy
Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:25 pm
#4

isnt all that damage negated when a smuggler can just daze you, heal it all up, then carry on pounding on you when he so chooses ?



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TehFBI
Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:55 pm
#5

masterpistoleer/mastersmuggler/2000CM/novice commando.....



best of both world and Launcher pistol Area states






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mjPboy
Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:09 pm
#6

hehe no mbh loot whoooring tho ^^



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SeraCohw
Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:12 pm
#7

bter versions of our moves lol. most of hid moves are based sop he can excape. concussion shot breaks on damage no good if u are tryign to fight something maybe good to get away of heal up and aply buffs but after that it has no use.
BadgerSmaker
Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:20 pm
#8






mjPboy wrote:
isnt all that damage negated when a smuggler can just daze you, heal it all up, then carry on pounding on you when he so chooses ?






Please conc me... 40 seconds of regen is fantastic to me. Anyone who thinks conc'ing someone is a valid PvP tactic on a 1 v 1 is sadly misguided.


On a 3v1, it gives you options. On a !v1, my mind starts racing up, and then, my smuggler friend, IT'S ON.




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mjPboy
Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:24 pm
#9

ok then, this , i think, is the tactic I encountered earlier on.


Conc, ruby, 2 1400 stims, then kd me and unleash with high damage moves - we were fighting for a few minutes, but this pushed me over the edge and I incapped.



then we fought again, i got upperhand,,but he last ditched me , landed a 6k hit, 3k absorbed by armour




oh well, i mastered smuggler now ( I needed the badge) and can easily swap if I cant take my npc Bh marks.



what I do find sad is it took me all of 4 hours to get unarmed tree and all of smuggler ( tho 1.2mil pistol xp banked, and enough combat xp to cap helped thing) Unarmed tree took hours and hours pre cu..now its 30minutes



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16BitHero
Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:11 pm
#10






BadgerSmaker wrote:





mjPboy wrote:
isnt all that damage negated when a smuggler can just daze you, heal it all up, then carry on pounding on you when he so chooses ?






Please conc me... 40 seconds of regen is fantastic to me. Anyone who thinks conc'ing someone is a valid PvP tactic on a 1 v 1 is sadly misguided.


On a 3v1, it gives you options. On a !v1, my mind starts racing up, and then, my smuggler friend, IT'S ON.







I'm sorry Badger but you're wrong, you don't know the wonders of Concussion shot, lemee explain


We duel I get you down to lets say half hp, I then concussion shot you so you can't heal ect... when I so choose, I knock you down hit you with a damage shot then panic shot you. You are now down to about 2/5 hp and still can't hea,l panic shot timer is wearing down so I knock you down again hit you with another damage shot you're now incaped.


And if you're not incaped I hit you with one damage shot then concussion shot you ect ect rinse repeat untill you die


Message Edited by 16BitHero on 08-26-2005 06:13 PM



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EmonOkari
Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:33 pm
#11

I couldn't choose...so I picked both.



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Shunyo
Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:33 pm
#12






16BitHero wrote:






BadgerSmaker wrote:





mjPboy wrote:
isnt all that damage negated when a smuggler can just daze you, heal it all up, then carry on pounding on you when he so chooses ?






Please conc me... 40 seconds of regen is fantastic to me. Anyone who thinks conc'ing someone is a valid PvP tactic on a 1 v 1 is sadly misguided.


On a 3v1, it gives you options. On a !v1, my mind starts racing up, and then, my smuggler friend, IT'S ON.







I'm sorry Badger but you're wrong, you don't know the wonders of Concussion shot, lemee explain


We duel I get you down to lets say half hp, I then concussion shot you so you can't heal ect... when I so choose, I knock you down hit you with a damage shot then panic shot you. You are now down to about 2/5 hp and still can't hea,l panic shot timer is wearing down so I knock you down again hit you with another damage shot you're now incaped.


And if you're not incaped I hit you with one damage shot then concussion shot you ect ect rinse repeat untill you die



Message Edited by 16BitHero on 08-26-200506:13 PM






thats considering you land every shot though right? and considering they don't get a heal in before the concussion shot?




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16BitHero
Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:44 pm
#13






Shunyo wrote:






16BitHero wrote:






BadgerSmaker wrote:





mjPboy wrote:
isnt all that damage negated when a smuggler can just daze you, heal it all up, then carry on pounding on you when he so chooses ?






Please conc me... 40 seconds of regen is fantastic to me. Anyone who thinks conc'ing someone is a valid PvP tactic on a 1 v 1 is sadly misguided.


On a 3v1, it gives you options. On a !v1, my mind starts racing up, and then, my smuggler friend, IT'S ON.







I'm sorry Badger but you're wrong, you don't know the wonders of Concussion shot, lemee explain


We duel I get you down to lets say half hp, I then concussion shot you so you can't heal ect... when I so choose, I knock you down hit you with a damage shot then panic shot you. You are now down to about 2/5 hp and still can't hea,l panic shot timer is wearing down so I knock you down again hit you with another damage shot you're now incaped.


And if you're not incaped I hit you with one damage shot then concussion shot you ect ect rinse repeat untill you die



Message Edited by 16BitHero on 08-26-200506:13 PM






thats considering you land every shot though right? and considering they don't get a heal in before the concussion shot?







With the foods I eat, it's almost imposible for me to miss a non melee, and they don't get the heals in before concussion shot because they're on the floor


/bonk





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