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Thread: healing without medic

lessander
Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:09 pm
#1

Is there a way to efficently heal yourself in protracted fights without having medic of anykind? I know are all on the same timer, any other way?
ChefVomit
Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:04 pm
#2

If you are going to play without medic, you will need some nice Stim D's and some Ruby Bliel, which is a chef drink.

The normal stim timer is 60 seconds. Ruby Bliel cuts that timer down to 30 seconds.

I have a few friends that run without any medic, and they use this method very successfully. It is all about learning your template, and knowing your weaknesses as well as your strengths. That way you can tip the battlefield in your favor.



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TenshiHanaKinu
Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:36 pm
#3

Is the Ruby Biel thing an exploit or working as intended?



Where you can take Ruby Biel, use the Stim, take more Ruby Biel, use it again, repeat until full...? (I don't use it, I rarely ever use Stims, but anyway)





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Cpl_Fisher
Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:36 pm
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TenshiHanaKinu wrote:

Is the Ruby Biel thing an exploit or working as intended?



Where you can take Ruby Biel, use the Stim, take more Ruby Biel, use it again, repeat until full...? (I don't use it, I rarely ever use Stims, but anyway)








err I though that was the way it was intended?


I never use ruby anyway, just use a stim every minute to reduce the wear on my mind.





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BadgerSmaker
Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:37 am
#5






TenshiHanaKinu wrote:

Is the Ruby Biel thing an exploit or working as intended?



Where you can take Ruby Biel, use the Stim, take more Ruby Biel, use it again, repeat until full...? (I don't use it, I rarely ever use Stims, but anyway)







The Devs were quizzed on this but didn't respond. If it's an exploit it will go away someday.



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Shagg22
Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:38 pm
#6






BadgerSmaker wrote:





TenshiHanaKinu wrote:

Is the Ruby Biel thing an exploit or working as intended?



Where you can take Ruby Biel, use the Stim, take more Ruby Biel, use it again, repeat until full...? (I don't use it, I rarely ever use Stims, but anyway)







The Devs were quizzed on this but didn't respond. If it's an exploit it will go away someday.





huh? I'm not sure I understand. Ruby lasts for 14 minutes. I get 2 heals in a minute. I've never tried to see if I could get 28 heals in 14 mins though; would be a waste of stims.




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BadgerSmaker
Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:48 pm
#7






Shagg22 wrote:


huh? I'm not sure I understand. Ruby lasts for 14 minutes. I get 2 heals in a minute. I've never tried to see if I could get 28 heals in 14 mins though; would be a waste of stims.






Taking ruby resets the stimpack timer, so you can stim > ruby > stim, wait 30 seconds and stim > ruby > stim until you get full up of drink.



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Shagg22
Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:03 pm
#8

Damn, wish I would have known that when taking on that boss mark with my bh last week, lol. I doubt that's working as intended (TM), but I don't think NPC marks will notice.




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TenshiHanaKinu
Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:41 pm
#9

No... what I'm talking about does not have a 30 second timer.



10:00:00 Take Ruby Biel
10:00:01 Use Stim
10:00:02 Take Ruby Biel
10:00:03 Use Stim


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Iceovekan
Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:20 pm
#10

That has been fixed a few patches ago....


So no you can no longer, stim/ruby/stim to heal for 2400 points every 30 seconds.... Of course you can only do this 4-5 times depending on your stomach.... For a total of around..12,000 points...



The Ruby Bliel has been fixed and it now lasts for 10-14 minutes as opposed to instant use. So you can no longer use the method above. However, ruby does a great job for normal grinding. For PVP, you do need a good mind reserve for heals... PVE, it isn't really necessary if you're going for level 82 and below one at a time... It is nice though as heals are ona six second timer and you can use it over and over. Take some Aitha or Citrus Snow Cake and your healing efficiency goes through the roof.


So yes, those 15 points in medic are worth it. I think we're back to Pre-CU days as you really needed some medic to function....


Stims are okay, but it's not going to be the end all be all... believe me 30 seconds is a very long time when you're getting wailed on by a half dozen maruaders....




SoulHunters
Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:56 am
#11






Iceovekan wrote:

That has been fixed a few patches ago....


So no you can no longer, stim/ruby/stim to heal for 2400 points every 30 seconds.... Of course you can only do this 4-5 times depending on your stomach.... For a total of around..12,000 points...



The Ruby Bliel has been fixed and it now lasts for 10-14 minutes as opposed to instant use. So you can no longer use the method above. However, ruby does a great job for normal grinding. For PVP, you do need a good mind reserve for heals... PVE, it isn't really necessary if you're going for level 82 and below one at a time... It is nice though as heals are ona six second timer and you can use it over and over. Take some Aitha or Citrus Snow Cake and your healing efficiency goes through the roof.


So yes, those 15 points in medic are worth it. I think we're back to Pre-CU days as you really needed some medic to function....


Stims are okay, but it's not going to be the end all be all... believe me 30 seconds is a very long time when you're getting wailed on by a half dozen maruaders....









Really? It was patched? Did this 2 days ago while I was KD bugged and not able to stand up
BloodMonk
Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:50 am
#12

get some bio'd clothing with healing mods, and take some citrus snow cake to increase the amount you're healing



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Gesro
Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:56 pm
#13

get a Medical Use droid along with Ruby Bliel, you will be able to use stims every 10-15 seconds



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