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ViolentAngel

Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:35 am

I've just taken a look at the Proffessions Preferences Astromech Stats, and I have to say I'm shocked...

Squad Leader is the least played proffesion in the game.

That's mybig secret. I play as a Squad Leader and I think it's time I came out of the closet and perhaps, in the process, corrupt a few of you innocents into joining me. Of course I'm a Pistoleer first and foremost, but I thought that Squad Leader would be nearly as popular as Bounty Hunter, very similiar proffessions, just another extension to the main ranged proffessions. Turns out this isn't widely known, so I thought I had a duty to bring that knowledge to light, and hopefully give pistoleers a bit of an edge while I'm at it. Please note that I have left out the basic Pistol Speed, Acc, and Def as these are the same on both templates.

The'Straight'Template

Master Pistoleer

Master Bounty Hunter

Master Marksman

Medic 0010

= 249 skill points

General Ranged Accuracy = 185

General Ranged Speed = 75

Melee Defense = 165

Ranged Defense = 185

Bonuses: Bacta Shot, Lethal Shot

This is a pistoleer version ofthe 'everyone need to be a BH' FOTM that came about shortlyafter theCU. I know a lot of Pistoleers also dabblewith,or are based onSmuggler, but that's about getting more specials, rather than more bonuses. This is the template everyone seemed to assume was the default ranged template becuase of it's acessiblity to other ranged pros and it's 'high' skill bonuses. You will see below that I not only better these bonuses in every field, but I also add few new moves too. Also, what is the point of taking medic if you're only going to heal for 500hp a time? Sure, you can work your heals into your Combat Spam and heal for lots, but think of all the shotsthat you're sacrificing, better to disarm a fella than healfor 500 in my experience.

jzf's 'Queer Secret'Template

Master Pistoleer

Master Bounty Hunter

Squad Leader 0404

FS Ranged Speed IV

= 250 skill points exactly

General Ranged Accuracy = 190 (+5)

General Ranged Speed = 87 (+12, all FS based)

Melee Defense = 220 (+55)

Ranged Defense = 235 (+50)

Bonus: Group Ranged Defense = 25

Now those bonuses don't seem alot when you're mates laugh at you for standing near the Squad Leader trainer. +55 Melee and +50 Ranged Defense is pretty good. You're at 250 defense while the straight guys are at 200. You're damage output is pretty similiar, and they get the Novice Heal. But then you also have Rally, another +80 defense (both)and another +40acc (both), for your whole team and the legendary (and highly secret) Volley Fire, thatcurses the target with a +15% more damage from anything and everything. I don't think I have everseen a target outlive that debuff. Oh, and you also get to play around with sending /sys (system-like messages) to your group too, even in JTL

Frequently Asked Questions

Q1: Hey, you can't do that, that special doesn't do that,the Official Squad Leader FAQ v3.1in the SL Forum says something totally different! You are a twisted liar, etc, etc, ban you!

A1: The latest post in that FAQ was11-19-2003 05:37 PMby CaptainVemnox (rather alot pre-CU) and the CU Live - SL Skill Tree, which is the most recent 'guide' only tells you what the in game Skills Window tells you. Half the reason that Squad Leader is under played is becuase the SWG community is under informed by anunder par correspondent.

Q2: What do youdo for Heals?

A2: Did you know that you can get Stim's that healover 1000hp? Just use the Bazaar search engine and you will be able to findthevendor fromaBio Engineer (prbbly the only one)on your server. Disarm, Heal, Intim, Blind and get back to dealing damage. Besides, one of my regulars is an MDoc, CM4000, she's great. I only ever heal myself if I am soloing BH Targets.

Q3: What if you're not leading a group?

A3: I have never joined a group that wouldn't let me bethe leader as soon as I asked. "Sup fellas, thx for the invite, would you /makeleader me?I am a Squad Leader." I've never even had to argue my case before. I've certainly never been in a group with another squad leader before

but if I did, I'm not missing out on any bonuses, becuase the other Squad Leader would be using them, and I would have better stats than the straight template anyway.

Q4: What about Lethal Shot?

A4: Seriously,I have Body Shot, Quick Draw and Crit Shot, what on earth would I use Leathal Shot for?

Q5: Wow, you went for a whole post without mentioning Dual Wield... You feeling okay?

Q6: yeah, I've been playing Devil May Cry 3 on Gunslinger Style all week, it's really helping me tocontrol my urges.

!!! GOD GIVE ME DUAL WIELD !!!

Aww man... now look what you made me do...

Oh and if someone could tell the Squad Leader Correspondent that I'm bad mouthing him across the forums, that would be great too.

/lfg

Take the blue pill,Ô
Play SWG, never dual-wield your pistols and believe whatever you want to believe.
Take the red pill,Ô
Play MxO, and I will show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

SWG was never the game I wanted it to be, even before the NGE. All the NGE did is take away what gameplay SWG actually did have.

BadgerSmaker

Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:46 am

#2

I love having a Squad Leader lead the group, I agree it is totally underated.

SL is due for some Dev loving in the next few publishes so things will hopefully be a lot better for MSL's.

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"BAD NPC SPAWNER IS HERE!, NO ENTRY IN NPC SPAWNERS DATATABLE"

ChefVomit

Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:16 am

#3

Two relatively equal PvP groups go head to head. If one has a competent SL in charge while the other doesnt, the SL-led team has a remarkably higher chance of success.

Sqaud leader I agree is extremely underrated. They could definitely use a little bit of love, but even as it is now it is a very good profession to dabble in.

Zemzam Zeman
__________________________________________________________________________
The crafter formerly known as Chef Vomit
New Profession: PURPLE PEOPLE EATER!
PLEASE DROP OFF ALL WINNINGS AT 3079,3154 Revenance, Lok

lessander

Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:59 am

#4

So ...So Im not alone? there are others like me who share my problem?

Lessander Master Pistoleer/ Master Squad leader

BloodMonk

Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:47 am

#5

why 0404 iso 0313 in SL?

Proud Member of -BLOOD-

I HATE GRINDING)

"Invader's blood marches through my veins like giant radioactive rubber pants! The pants command me! Do not ignore my veins!"

Managing the Bloodmonks Weapon Facility (aka Sly's Slavepit), Producer of fine specialty weapons.

BadgerSmaker

Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:49 am

#6

BloodMonk wrote:
why 0404 iso 0313 in SL?

iso = instead of? Man, that is lazy... and it isn't three words but two.

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"BAD NPC SPAWNER IS HERE!, NO ENTRY IN NPC SPAWNERS DATATABLE"

BloodMonk

Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:06 am

#7

the more words I type the more typos I make

and I try to make my posts as brief as possible as I might be interrupted any seconds which usually makes me forget what I wanted to typ (stupid job)

Proud Member of -BLOOD-

I HATE GRINDING)

"Invader's blood marches through my veins like giant radioactive rubber pants! The pants command me! Do not ignore my veins!"

Managing the Bloodmonks Weapon Facility (aka Sly's Slavepit), Producer of fine specialty weapons.

lessander

Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:36 am

#8

0404 instead of 0303 gives a big boost to the bonus passive deffence buff from MSL, formup at 0010 is just this side of useless as it stands right now. Maybe with our promised naughty Dev love that will change.

BloodMonk

Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:11 am

#9

don't underestimate states though....dizzy still gives -75 defence, stun gives -10 but supposedly lowers your regen (still have to test this).

it would be cool if they made KD recovery cost more if you're dizzy though

Sly

Proud Member of -BLOOD-

I HATE GRINDING)

"Invader's blood marches through my veins like giant radioactive rubber pants! The pants command me! Do not ignore my veins!"

Managing the Bloodmonks Weapon Facility (aka Sly's Slavepit), Producer of fine specialty weapons.

ViolentAngel

Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:42 pm

#10

But nobody uses that old fotm template anymore, right? No one uses the Straight Template?

Take the blue pill,Ô
Play SWG, never dual-wield your pistols and believe whatever you want to believe.
Take the red pill,Ô
Play MxO, and I will show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

SWG was never the game I wanted it to be, even before the NGE. All the NGE did is take away what gameplay SWG actually did have.

willflynne

Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:06 am

#11

Master Squad Leader, Master Pistoleer and CM 2xxx here, and without a doubt SL abilities do help.

Example: Was grouped with a Jedi guildmate yesterday while taking on a kimo spawn. After pulling the critter and beginning combat, the guildmate had to leave the keyboard because of a visitor and left me to take on the kimo solo. "Gee, thanks (oh crud)!" I thought. rofl Well, long story short, using a lot of heals and stims, volleyfire calls and just about all the pistoleer specials I thought would help, I ended up taking down the kimo. Mind you, I was using the SL flare pistol from Etyyy (no pups or slicing) the whole time. So I figured, why not try again, see if it was a fluke?

It wasn't a fluke.

And as far as working skills for SL,Darth_Sushi wrote up a State of the Profession post for SL just under a month ago, quite informative to look at and see what is and isn't working as well as it could be. Definitely worth a read if you want up-to-date info on SL.

Flynne Cordova
Elder Jedi, and the only Jedi on the Bloodfin GCW Officer list without a PvP kill
Atheta Cordov'a
Master Officer, ready to support her groups to the fullest
Byoolah
Master Commando, killing Black Suns every day just because she can

Jango37

Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:58 am

#12

Violent Angel, why are you promoting another game with ur sig? If u want to promte another game, go elsewhere because we all come here for SWG not any other games.

Primus Vox
Master Bounty Hunter
A familiar face long forgotten

Devous Darkstar
Smuggler
Freelance Smuggler Pilot

ViolentAngel

Sun Sep 04, 2005 10:03 am

#13

Dual Wield...

Take the blue pill,Ô
Play SWG, never dual-wield your pistols and believe whatever you want to believe.
Take the red pill,Ô
Play MxO, and I will show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

SWG was never the game I wanted it to be, even before the NGE. All the NGE did is take away what gameplay SWG actually did have.

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