Pistoleer Archive
Thread: BH change -> Fewer Master Pistoleers?
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khamafeu
Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:31 am
#1
I think more and not less Master Pistoleers... Why not MBH, MPsitoleer and still 18 points left... You have the best mods for pistol, dodge, nice Def vs Mods and some defense...
Arianrhod
_Vicious_
Wed Jun 30, 2004 7:47 am
#2
yes they are supposed to be changing how spped actually works which should mean no more speed cap. If they manage to not have to have a speed cap then then there will still be many ppl mastering pistoleer to get all the speed they can get
GavPhalon
Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:39 am
#3
Is it just me, you do people seem to overlook Ranged Mitigation in these dabbler templates? Mit 3 is a priority in any new template that I might try.
Even still, if this causes less in the way of Master Pistoleers, so be it. There will always be a few of us stubborn Masters that hold out.
Randonb
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:06 am
#4
People frequently overlook it, GavPhalon.
And yes, BH just got more attractive, so there will be slightly fewer players from all professions as they migrate to it..
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MrBlond
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:19 am
#5
Does less points for MBH = nerf? For a long time I see posts from BH's saying the reason they have the most powerfull pistol attacks is because they spend so many point becoming a MBH. Its a good point. So that must mean less points equals less power. I hope.
Raptor2k1
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:52 am
#6
They still spend the same number of points on combat skills as they did, so I don't really see it as a nerf to their fighting abilities. All the change really does is free up more options for them to take a side combat profession (which is a good thing.)
meyer1215
Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:02 pm
#7
Are master pistoleers about to become rare? Since they are going to remove three lines of scout from the requires for BH, All you really need is 0001 to max out the speed of a pistoleer. BH already gets the eyeshot. And smugglars already have the best non-ham specific attack (low blow). And you can grab novice commando to get the launcher pistol. In fact, I can see a dabbled template being the new top guy. Just take a look at this:
TKA 0004 (defenses)
Smugglar 0040 (last ditch)
Pistol 0041 (defenses and speed)
BH 0040 (pistol tree)
Medic 2000 (stop bleeding)
Commando 0000
You get this:
Defense vs Blind +40
Defense vs Dizzy +40
Defense vs Knockdown +50
Defense vs Posture Change +20
Defense vs Stun +40
Pistol Accuracy +115
Pistol Speed +97
Melee Defense +74
Ranged Defense +62
This template focuses on the various pistols that are available, but You can also do a dodge template (by also getting fencer and a 1--- pistol (115 dodge) or 2--- pistol to get 130 dodge.)
I'm not sure if they have thought out what will happen now that BH is 48 points cheaper. Try going to swgcb.yogn.net. It allows you to go over the 250 limit. See what you can do when you go to 298 points with you have novice BH.
Meyer
TKA 0004 (defenses)
Smugglar 0040 (last ditch)
Pistol 0041 (defenses and speed)
BH 0040 (pistol tree)
Medic 2000 (stop bleeding)
Commando 0000
You get this:
Defense vs Blind +40
Defense vs Dizzy +40
Defense vs Knockdown +50
Defense vs Posture Change +20
Defense vs Stun +40
Pistol Accuracy +115
Pistol Speed +97
Melee Defense +74
Ranged Defense +62
This template focuses on the various pistols that are available, but You can also do a dodge template (by also getting fencer and a 1--- pistol (115 dodge) or 2--- pistol to get 130 dodge.)
I'm not sure if they have thought out what will happen now that BH is 48 points cheaper. Try going to swgcb.yogn.net. It allows you to go over the 250 limit. See what you can do when you go to 298 points with you have novice BH.
Meyer
Koth_Ablon
Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:07 pm
#8
once the revamp hits and the DE-10 begins to own all, you will see alot more masters
meyer1215
Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:19 pm
#9
khamafeu wrote:I think more and not less Master Pistoleers... Why not MBH, MPsitoleer and still 18 points left... You have the best mods for pistol, dodge, nice Def vs Mods and some defense...Arianrhod
Master Pistoleers have the best mods? Not really, when dabbling with BH, you do get alot of speed but after 100 speed, the rest is useless (may be changed in CB, but that is 3 months away MIN. [publish 11]). Accuracy? it is only 40 less if you get BH pistols and novice pistoleer (125 vs 165). Dodge?, You only get 105 at Master, if you dabble, you can hit the cap of 125 with some fencer. You can also add Fencer's defs vs. and melee/ranged to increase them higher than a master pistoleer can get.
As for the specials you get as a master pistoleer, BH has the best PvP attacks for pistol, Eyeshot. Smuggler gets the highest damage mod (6x last ditch) pistol attack. Yhe only 2 things master has for you is migration 3 and the new ds-10 pistol. You can still get migration 2, and possible get melee migration 2 as well. The extra defenses should offset the difference between migration 2 and 3. The ds-10 is a good weapon, but it is only ap1 and energy.
Meyer
Vangreal
Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:07 am
#10
You think you could push for something Randonb? I mean, how many more slaps in the face are we expected to take? I know you probably already are, but if you need any kind of help let me know.
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