Pistoleer Archive
Thread: DEMAND BETTER
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Vangreal
Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:43 am
#1
We just saw a jedi patch that fixed a ton of problems, and makes them EXTREMELY powerful. Which they should be to some extent. However, why does one profession get fixed AGAIN while we continue to get "Wait till the Combat Balance" And we just got stealth nerfed again, how wonderful. We need SOMETHING good to keep us on our feet, as a master pistoleer we still out of all the ranged professions has the least amount of working specials, and dont even try to use the DE-10 as an excuse, the profession STILL DOES NOT WORK AS INTENDED. We have to spend millions just to SURVIVE in pvp, have no state effects, and frankly, rifleman works quite well, Carbineer got fixed a while back, at least now most of their specials work, we need a fix NOW. I mean, fix a couple specials, if you can nerf em you can fix them for crying out loud. This is TOTAL BS. Can I get an amen here?
Ternque01
Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:50 am
#2
I don't believe in god, but amen 
Read the PvP guide to pistoleer in my sig, you should start feeling even better about your ability to pwn in combat 
KillaJohn
Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:14 am
#3
I'm and atheist also, but ill give ya an Amen.
I agree that other classes that have been consistently ignored in patches and Publshes need some attention ASAP. However, I'm not sure that it is that Pistoleer isn't working as intended as the other classes arent. Rifleman are supposed to do a TON of damage, but fire EXTREMELY slow. Pistoleers are supposed to do the least damage of ranged profs, but fire MUCH faster. Carbineers are supposed to be the middle ground on both damage and speed. Hybrib Elite Combat Profession (Bh, Commando, and to and extent Smuggler) are supposed to have the ability to do a lot of damage and fire fast, but not with the same type of weapon, they are supposed to be more versatile than a regular Elite Combat Profession. The fact of the matter is that Rifleman fire WAY to fast. This has single handedly unbalanced the ranged combat in SWG. IMHO the fact that attaining the FS slot by spending an obsene amount of time grinding random professions until you get it was BY FAR the WORST decision SOE made when designing this game. They should not have made Jedi playable until they had the epiphany they apparently had for Publish 9 & 10. Combat in SWG, ESPECIALLY PvP, and especially ranged combat, is terrible. It shows complete lack of innovation and dedication on the part of SOE, and their severe bias towards the Jedi class. The fact that Jedi have gotten so much attention is not, however, the fault of SOE. It is the player's who play this game only to be a Jedi. I can't help but feel that these players are completely new to MMORPG's. The worst thing you can possibly have in a n MMO is one unique class, obtainable only to those who have no jobs, dont attend school, and haven't had any semblance of a personal life, not too mention sexlife, in the entirety of their pitiful existence on Earth. But i digress fomr my point, SOE does need to give other classes, like the ones that 95% of the player-base play (even if it is only to be able to play a Jedi), as much if not more attention, as the majority of players should get the special treatment, not the select few that make up the minority.
I agree that other classes that have been consistently ignored in patches and Publshes need some attention ASAP. However, I'm not sure that it is that Pistoleer isn't working as intended as the other classes arent. Rifleman are supposed to do a TON of damage, but fire EXTREMELY slow. Pistoleers are supposed to do the least damage of ranged profs, but fire MUCH faster. Carbineers are supposed to be the middle ground on both damage and speed. Hybrib Elite Combat Profession (Bh, Commando, and to and extent Smuggler) are supposed to have the ability to do a lot of damage and fire fast, but not with the same type of weapon, they are supposed to be more versatile than a regular Elite Combat Profession. The fact of the matter is that Rifleman fire WAY to fast. This has single handedly unbalanced the ranged combat in SWG. IMHO the fact that attaining the FS slot by spending an obsene amount of time grinding random professions until you get it was BY FAR the WORST decision SOE made when designing this game. They should not have made Jedi playable until they had the epiphany they apparently had for Publish 9 & 10. Combat in SWG, ESPECIALLY PvP, and especially ranged combat, is terrible. It shows complete lack of innovation and dedication on the part of SOE, and their severe bias towards the Jedi class. The fact that Jedi have gotten so much attention is not, however, the fault of SOE. It is the player's who play this game only to be a Jedi. I can't help but feel that these players are completely new to MMORPG's. The worst thing you can possibly have in a n MMO is one unique class, obtainable only to those who have no jobs, dont attend school, and haven't had any semblance of a personal life, not too mention sexlife, in the entirety of their pitiful existence on Earth. But i digress fomr my point, SOE does need to give other classes, like the ones that 95% of the player-base play (even if it is only to be able to play a Jedi), as much if not more attention, as the majority of players should get the special treatment, not the select few that make up the minority.
Bienos
Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:39 am
#4
/amen
No problem for me that pistol would be "weaker" than rifles or carbs, but its
unbearable special moves are bugged. That's why i surrended pistol, and that's why i gonna cancel account , devs only able to patch jedis, and not fixinga attracting profession like pistoleers.
I remind pistoleer is bugged since SWG started; they even managed to bug fan shot.
Summary:
-disarming shot: no damage on enemy weapon, no "disarming effect" at all, bugged
-bodyshot 3: worthless besides BS2, unbalanced.
-fan shot: deemed to be a single target attack, it's become an area attack since around some last winter's patch. But area attack is deemed to be the multi target pistol shot....
-multi target pistol shot: bugged, it may work 1/3 times in PVE, i dont even dare using it in PVP...
-pistolmeleedefense 2: bugged, working NOT AT ALL
SO YOU HAVE ALL THE STRONGEST PISTOL SPECIAL WHICH ARE UNUSABLE , THAT MEANS THIS PROFESSION IS USELESS.
Its not acceptable such an starwarsy and attracting profession is neglected by the devs, especially that the only problem would be fixing some bugs.... ITS NOT A BALANCE PROBLEM, ONLY A BUG PROBLEM
Do the devs only hear Jedis ???????
Vangreal
Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:02 am
#5
Its truly sad, more than likely going to drop master pistoleer as well, and grab rifles or carbines. At least it works. I bet you make the DEV's all pistoleers for about 2 days, and you would have a patch in a week, but wait, they all have jedi accounts......
I mean, just a hot fix to a few specials would be nice, hell, pick anyone of em you want, just give me a reason to keep this profession or this game for that matter.
I mean, just a hot fix to a few specials would be nice, hell, pick anyone of em you want, just give me a reason to keep this profession or this game for that matter.
Message Edited by Vangreal on 07-02-2004 08:04 AM
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