Pistoleer Archive
Thread: sick of you guys complaining
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Orima
Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:59 am
#14
So your sayingto be good atpvp youshoulduse DOT's,If everyonedid this pvp would be realfun wouldn't it 
althoughyour de-10 is nicewont hit for much
the geo also isnt that good if your fighting a prepared player. simply because of no ap
there is a reason most pvpers are riflemen.. its no big secret.
trajen2
Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:09 am
#15
LucassBenz wrote:
. . do you really think you could beat my temp with some good stun armor, soem synthsteak a psg and these weapons hittign you
2, 200+ str mind fire with over 150 dur 70 pot
2 220+ str mind poison with 130 dur 66 pot
a 480, unpoweruped geo
530 unpoweruped de-10
Like I said, stop complaining our profession rules.......if you honestly want to be good buy the best weapons its true with any profession..... and thats just my 2 cents
I personally HATE the fact that DoT weapons exist. . . in my opinion anyone, regardless of skill level, can be UBER with the right DoT weapon. Novice pikemen, piostoleers, brawllers can all land DoTs so where is the need to master? If all you do is apply fire/disease/poison then I say drop your masters and become and armorsmith or weaponsmith cuz it will get pretty boring depending on DoTs to win.
Inat Mivea
RBN - Reborn
Dharma812
Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:25 am
#16
LucassBenz wrote:
I dont understand what you guys whine about. Pistoleer by itself is not all that powerful I guess, but either is any profession alone...... if you want to do pistols then your gonna have to pick up bh and possibly smug, A) you can solo anything in pve with my template because of FD B) I would put 100 mil credits that I can beat 99% of the people in this game that arent jedi....... all you need to do is save up your little rancor mission credits, get a nice geo blaster/de-10 and then also get some mind dot guns......... do you really think you could beat my temp with some good stun armor, soem synthsteak a psg and these weapons hittign you
2, 200+ str mind fire with over 150 dur 70 pot
2 220+ str mind poison with 130 dur 66 pot
a 480, unpoweruped geo
530 unpoweruped de-10
Like I said, stop complaining our profession rules.......if you honestly want to be good buy the best weapons its true with any profession..... and thats just my 2 cents
Your aregument is 100% invalidated because your template is not pure pistoleer. Yes, pistols as a weapon can be competative, but consider your SP investment.
Pistoleer as a STAND ALONE profession is still one of the most borked in the game.
Orosc
Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:55 am
#17
Two problems with the argument you make that pistols is good.
1. A rifleman with similarly rare equipment would still defeat you.
2. Having super rare equipment does not affect pistoleers inability to meaningfully parpicipate in High end PVE. You arent going to spam specials on your 15 million credit legendary pistol to kill nightsisters.
3. Many of the complaints have to do with broken skills, Buggy/non working AoEs, speed cap, if an ability is non-functional, it should be fixed regardless of whether it would be spammed by masters.
Basically, the want for the proffessions to be comparable with average equipment does not mean they want to be uber by default. And if you are going to compare two classes, do so with a few assumtions.. 1. If dueling, you each have similar skill. 2. You each have similarly rare/powerfulequipment. 3. You have each spent the same amount of skill points in useful skills 4.Consider PVE and PVP, the world doesnt revolve only around pvp. If you don't, you simply aren't proving anything. If you have the most expensive toys, you have spend all buy 12 of your skill points in pistol skills or prereqs for them, and your able to beat a MRifle/MDancer with average stuff who has never PVPed, all your proving is that your an %#@.
And waiting for the combat balance...
I understand their premise, I mean there is no reason to fix a proffesion twice is there? Well if it means hanging paying players out to dry for half a year, and letting the server populations shift to combat medics/riflemen/melee stackers, The answer should not be quite so instant.
I can promise you one Question that SOE will never be asked or responded to like that.
Q: "Dear SOE, I was not billed for last months star wars galaxies subscription, is there a problem? I dont want my account disabled."
A: "Dear Bill Costazawits, please wait until the combat balance, we do not intend to be making any charges until then."
Wisky
Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:17 am
#18
LucassBenz wrote:
ok..... a) I have burst run to and im def more effective at it b) I take 100% kd food c) have aa + ca against KD and dizzy, and I have melee mig 1 through smug....... so with abut 170 to KD, and about 100 to dizzy through my cloths mods it would be very hard to knockme down and dizzy c) I also have intim so you would be doing just as little dmg d) my armor is about 88% to blast so there goes your ph e) im an accomplished pvp with good weapons id eventually stick my mind fire an posion, f) I can kite you cant should I go on?
You did not read my post very clearly.I never once said I would kd you with a knock down move. Swordsman dont have a kd move. Whats your posture change defense. As far as intimidating me I can healstate it. . Not to mention my fire blankets can put out 500 dot flames in 1 try and my posion cures can cure 600 dots in one try. Trust me. I have fought many with your attitude and surprised them. Melee mitigation one and 88% blast will still allow me to hit you for 200 points of damage after your armor if not more. Do the math I will hit you in the head for 1800 points of damage at the leasteven with mitigation 1 the minimum on my hammer with a min pup is 380 . Whats 88% of 1800. Not to mention power hammers have ap2. DO any of your pistols have ap2? With me useing COB you will prob not hit me very often and if you think useing burst run makes your template tough then your a moron. As a matter a fact how about I use my buddies 750 mind posion cleaver on you. Or I could use his exceptional hammer that has 1231 max damage w/o a pup. You totally contradicted your self by saying you needto spend millions on your profession to win. Or that you need to run andfeign. Ibet my buddy as a pikeman with his 300 mind posion and 300 mind fire pikes. Then switching to his 850 max damage lva would destroy you too. I have a pistolleer. I have tried the kd food and I have all the dots you speak of. You didnt even mention useing the dodge food man do you realize how much that helps. 80% if not all use PD if KD dont work if they cant hit you with either then you dont need the def vs kd.
Message Edited by Wisky on 10-21-2004 12:38 PM
WillburWright
Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:49 pm
#19
First, I will say "S-T-F-U". Thank you.
/bow
LucassBenz wrote:
I dont understand what you guys whine about. Pistoleer by itself is not all that powerful I guess, but either is any profession alone Just about any other combat profession alone is. Rifleman alone, Swordsman alone, Fencer alone, andCarbineer and Pikemen aren't as messed up as we are....... if you want to do pistols then your gonna have to pick up bh and possibly smug That's nice, waste the rest of our skillpoints to be as effective (well, not quite) as another combat profession (only 92 skillpoints), A) you can solo anything in pve with my template because of FD FD stinks; it is borked. What are you, a JEdi/DF 1, Swordsman/DF 1, ect.....B) I would put 100 mil credits that I can beat 99% of the people in this game that arent jedi....... all you need to do is save up your little rancor mission credits, get a nice geo blaster/de-10 and then also get some mind dot guns Takes a hell of a lot of time to get that much money.......... do you really think you could beat my temp with some good stun armor, soem synthsteak a psg and these weapons hittign you
2, 200+ str mind fire with over 150 dur 70 pot
2 220+ str mind poison with 130 dur 66 pot
a 480, unpoweruped geo
530 unpoweruped de-10
These are damn good very expensive items. I could almost be just as effective using a 20k Powerhammer or T-21....
Like I said, stop complaining our profession rules.......if you honestly want to be good buy the best weapons its true with any profession..... and thats just my 2 cents Ah, so you are a pistoleer. It does not rule. Best weapons. We have only AP1. Have fun with Med and Heavy armor mobs! Oooh, genosian blasters! Too bad Jedi camp the merc room 24/7... DE-10's, very hard to get. Noteffective w/olots of skilltapes/BH pistols. We have to spend millionsof credits and almost all of our skillpointsto be a fractioneffective as anyone else.
NeoEcks
Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:24 pm
#20
BY THE GODS if i could one star his arse again i would...
GGGRRRRRRR
GGGRRRRRRR
Message Edited by NeoEcks on 10-21-2004 11:24 PM
Genn-great-Genn
Sat Oct 23, 2004 6:18 am
#21
Hmm.. So in your opinion you need to be a millionare in order to be a decent fighter, that dos not seem right or fair to me.
Also pistoleer alone is worse than any of the other elite combat proffesions alone.
Datink_Nieleft
Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:58 am
#22
What can I say that hasn't been said? Nothing
What do I want to say?
"It is apparent that junior here missed the short shuttle to gunfighter school daily"
NeoEcks
Sun Oct 24, 2004 8:15 am
#23
Datink_Nieleft wrote:What can I say that hasn't been said? NothingWhat do I want to say?"It is apparent that junior here missed the short shuttle to gunfighter school daily"
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
OMG that was funny
/5stars for you
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