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Thread: WHat pistoleer shot is the most efficient in PVP?

KaernLegorah
Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:09 pm
#14






OnlyMaestro wrote:


Right now, Smuggler Specials are the only way to go.





Low Blow and Panic Shot, yes.


Last Ditch isover-rated. Not saying it's bad, but it's not nearly as good as people seem to think it is.



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Daermoth
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:15 am
#15

Hehe, yeah, the people saying Last ditch isnt worth its salt must not be able to fire 1 per second. When i pvp ive got my faithful macro /panic /HS2 /lastditch x 4 /lowblow when panic wears off /lastditch till dead.



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GadonThek
Fri Feb 20, 2004 4:39 am
#16

Damn Im glad I chose to get a second account Ill be moving everything except chef over to that, so I can afford to get master pistoleer/smuggler 0040.
JediMasterKamoei
Fri Feb 20, 2004 6:05 am
#17

Hell try Master Pistoleer, Smug 0040, commando 0040 (or just novice for the launcher) and its rather evil what you can to to PC's doing last dith with a nice launcher, let alone an AT-ST (which I now solo very easily) Plus if you get a TKA (or any melee class for that matter) on you the explosions in their face add for a great disorientation effect, allowing you to get out of their range. Something to think about.



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O_Shua
Fri Feb 20, 2004 7:58 am
#18

Now that warcry is getting nerfed (and after all that grinding to m brawler) i will probably go smuggler and keep m pistol. I am short on funds atm so i think smuggler might be a good thing to get money.

I went smuggler before now but then they revamp all the ranged professions and i dropped smuggler and commando and went pistoleer. I want to get back FD, best greif ability of all =]



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KaernLegorah
Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:18 pm
#19






roymitchel1 wrote:

last ditch is the most powerful special in the game out of any weapon. i dont see how that "isnt as good as advertised". get the speed to use it at 1 second and its the best chance you have using a pistol.

Message Edited by roymitchel1 on 02-19-2004 10:06 PM




That's the key though, the only way to have Last Ditch be fast enough is to be a Master Gunfighter with Master Marksman and use a pistol with a speed of less than 1.8. The best pistols, however, don't have a speed of under 1.8 so if you don't get a speed slice you're outta luck.


Unless you've got some nice skill tapes, you can't get enough Pistol Speed to get Last Ditch to 1 second, since you don't have enough skill points to get BH Pistols, Master Gunfighter and Dirty Fighting 4.


Last Ditch is good forsending a single powerful shot, but Fan Shot has a better average DPS for any pistol of speed 1.8 or higher being used by a Master Gunfighter with Master Marksman.


Single powerful shot to finish off your target, sure go for Last Ditch. Best DPS is still Fan Shot for many people. I didn't say Last Ditch sucks. I just said it's over-rated, since people talk about it like it's jesus in a pistol.



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Daermoth
Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:58 pm
#20




KaernLegorah wrote:


That's the key though, the only way to have Last Ditch be fast enough is to be a Master Gunfighter with Master Marksman and use a pistol with a speed of less than 1.8. The best pistols, however, don't have a speed of under 1.8 so if you don't get a speed slice you're outta luck.






I dont own a single pistol that is slower than 1.4 or a damage lower than 245. In fact most of my pistols that i use regularly have a speed of less than 1 second and a damage over 300.





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Freylocke
Fri Feb 20, 2004 11:58 pm
#21

This is my favorite tactic against normal mobs . Fan shot they run up (might be 3 or 4 of them since fan shot is a cone aoe shot) knock down first to arrive with melee 1 fan shot till its dead. then knock down number 2 fanshot till dead etc etc etc
Purmal
Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:33 am
#22






KaernLegorah wrote:





roymitchel1 wrote:

last ditch is the most powerful special in the game out of any weapon. i dont see how that "isnt as good as advertised". get the speed to use it at 1 second and its the best chance you have using a pistol.

Message Edited by roymitchel1 on 02-19-2004 10:06 PM




That's the key though, the only way to have Last Ditch be fast enough is to be a Master Gunfighter with Master Marksman and use a pistol with a speed of less than 1.8. The best pistols, however, don't have a speed of under 1.8 so if you don't get a speed slice you're outta luck.


Unless you've got some nice skill tapes, you can't get enough Pistol Speed to get Last Ditch to 1 second, since you don't have enough skill points to get BH Pistols, Master Gunfighter and Dirty Fighting 4.


Last Ditch is good forsending a single powerful shot, but Fan Shot has a better average DPS for any pistol of speed 1.8 or higher being used by a Master Gunfighter with Master Marksman.


Single powerful shot to finish off your target, sure go for Last Ditch. Best DPS is still Fan Shot for many people. I didn't say Last Ditch sucks. I just said it's over-rated, since people talk about it like it's jesus in a pistol.






Then do what you say... you want to be good with a pistol in pvp, you have to expand on it... pistoleer alone sucks, but when you add master marksman, smuggler, and a defensive mod or two, its a damn good prof to have...
I am a master pistoleer, so I know what I am talking about...




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Roweswood
Sat Feb 21, 2004 4:44 am
#23

It all depends on the situation in PvP. I recommend picking up the BH pistol Tree myself. The Scatter Pistol is AP1 and you can target the mind pool with eyeshot. I have No problems being effective in pvp when i choose the right attack against the right professions, for example, dont try to pistol whip a fencer. Keep your distance and go for stop shot or eye shot depending on buffs and armor. If your fighting another ranged profession, except for commando, try to get close and KD them then follow up with stopping shot for the increased bonus on attack while they are down. Pistoleer can be very deadly when buffed, and using an armor piercing pistol.




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KaernLegorah
Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:13 pm
#24






Daermoth wrote:




KaernLegorah wrote:


That's the key though, the only way to have Last Ditch be fast enough is to be a Master Gunfighter with Master Marksman and use a pistol with a speed of less than 1.8. The best pistols, however, don't have a speed of under 1.8 so if you don't get a speed slice you're outta luck.







I dont own a single pistol that is slower than 1.4 or a damage lower than 245. In fact most of my pistols that i use regularly have a speed of less than 1 second and a damage over 300.







Well apologies that I don't own a pre-nerf FWG5 or a Krayt Blaster.


It seems that, since I don't havea million credits to spend on weapons nor the most uber pistols even though I've been playing since July, I'm not allowed to offer my input. So next time I'll just keep my mouth shut instead of trying to offer a different viewpoint on our profession for once.



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FatesTheatre
Sat Feb 21, 2004 7:12 pm
#25

Last Ditch is one of the most powerful in game, its X6 damage modifier(most at best are 3-4x) done to a random HAM pool. Problem with Last Ditch-delay between shots. At master pistoleer, no worries you can spam it.



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Daermoth
Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:11 am
#26





Daermoth wrote:




KaernLegorah wrote:


That's the key though, the only way to have Last Ditch be fast enough is to be a Master Gunfighter with Master Marksman and use a pistol with a speed of less than 1.8. The best pistols, however, don't have a speed of under 1.8 so if you don't get a speed slice you're outta luck.







I dont own a single pistol that is slower than 1.4 or a damage lower than 245. In fact most of my pistols that i use regularly have a speed of less than 1 second and a damage over 300.







Well apologies that I don't own a pre-nerf FWG5 or a Krayt Blaster.


It seems that, since I don't havea million credits to spend on weapons nor the most uber pistols even though I've been playing since July, I'm not allowed to offer my input. So next time I'll just keep my mouth shut instead of trying to offer a different viewpoint on our profession for once.






Peace and calm man, peace and calm. Was simply correcting a misinformed statement on your part. You said the best weapons before slicing wont have speeds faster than 1.8. Most pre-nerfs that werent even krayt enhanced that ive seen frequently have speeds greater than 1.5, and people only charge millions for the high damage ones. Please keep your flames in check.



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