Pistoleer Archive
Thread: usually i dont do this..but...
That's funny because I go up against pistoleer/smugglers all the time. They have panic shot, low blow and last ditch but for some reason I usually live.
I fought against pistoleer/smuggler a few weeks ago. Both of us were buffed (2500 health/action) and I walked away winning. Similar skills, stats don't really matter with the buffs we both had. Me without medic and this person had healing skills and yet, I won. It wasn't even last ditch that won the fight.
For the unskilled players, it only seems like spamming the most powerful shots fastest wins. For the ones who have actual skill, they know that the most powerful shot isn't the right one to use. You see, I was timing my opponent and watching when he healed. I used a KD 3 seconds after his heal. This gave me enough time to rush in and Nexu Grinned him to the cloning facility.
You do know which move Nexu Grin is right? Or will you simply impress me with your lack of knowledge in combat moves in this game?
How would/should I know what 'nexu grin' is you **edit**. I'm a Bounty Hunter.
This is why you don't win. You don't know what the opponent is capable of doing. All you know is bounty hunter. You don't know how to counter the opposition effectively.
In fact over the threads that you and I participate in, it's pretty much crystal clear that you don't know much about melee combat at all. Nexu Grin if you want to think about it is the melee world's version of Eye Shot. It doesn't do much but a master can crank it out like no tomorrow.
To Hyper I always hate saying this to people because i dont really thing that people should be forced to pick certain classes and certain lines in classes to stay alive, but.... Pick up some novice brawler. Your pvp game play will completly change. So if you master bh, then pick up your 18 pts in med and 15 in brawler and you will have a pretty bitc-hin pvp template.
Also note that this is coming from a rabid pistoleer hater.. Im a bh myself but found this little trick befor my vacation.
On to you pistoleers, bite me.
deadnewbie wrote:
as for CH's, we all know why novice CH is so big, its pretty much a required skill now-a-days.Actually no it's not. I've killed practically every mob in the game without a pet tanking for me. It's not hard. It just takes imagination. There's actually very little skill in yelling pet attack. In fact, there's no skill involved when you start adding pets into the mix.
Wow, didn't think I could say that one day but : /agree DeadNewbie
For the original poster, and since I didn't read all the replies, MAYBE the fact we share our skills with 4 other profs while you don't is the answer ? Or maybe ppl think Pistols are SW compliant and not Rifles ? Or just maybe it is because there are much more low price Pistols than Rifles, easier to use for non combattant profs ?
Just maybe hmmmm...
The ONLY surprise here is the low Carbineer population...BH + Carbineer is so deadly
BTW, Carbineer isn't that crap but they need some better PLAYER skills to compete. Once they learned how to do, they are just awesome.
Er ... yeah. It's sick. My pvp partner is a carbineer.
While I may brag about owning people in 1 on 1 scenarios, she goes around owning groups of people at a time. I'm the dead weight handling individual trouble spots in the groups. 6 on 1 is not a significant challenge to her. I once laid there incapped on the hill by Bestine watching her take out 6 people, a mauler, and a bunch of other crappy pets. It was sort of fearsome.
Deadnewbie, what is a nexu grinn (or someting like that)? 
and what server are you on? I really would want to meet you ingame once
Nexu Grin is the Teras Kasi's mind pool targetted hit. TKA are absolute utter badasses. Their precision line (combat XP) is very sweet stuff. Currently it has health, action, and mind pool targetting specials. On TestCenter, it has all of that and more defensive goodies than you can shake a stick at.
I play mostly as a Teras Kasi master these days. The only time I pull out the gun is when some **edit** decides he's going to kite me. Then again, when they don't kite me, I hit them for 1200 damage barefisted
I'm on a variety of servers playing all ranged combat professions, architect, weaponsmith, and Teras Kasi. My most developed character is on Sunrunner, a Master Smuggler/Master Pistoleer/Master Teras Kasi -- no, I don't need any medic for PvP or PvE.
There's an obvious reason why there's so many Novice Pistoleers out there, but so few Master Pistoleers (based on Holo's post from before). Pistoleer is a broken class that doesn't offer much, especially at Master, but some of the low stuff on our tree is useful for Bounty Hunters, Smugglers, and Commandos, all of whom have a Pistol or pistol specials in their tree.
For a Bounty Hunter, getting the Novice box + two speed boxes allows him to hit the speed cap. As a pure Pistoleer, though, our speed is awfully low -- a Master Rifleman can shoot a T21 rifle faster than a Master Pistoleer can fire a FWG5.
For Smugglers, getting Pistoleer means thatthey get speed and accuracy bonuses that help them make their extremely powerful Dirty Fighting specials more useful. There aren't really any specials in the Pistoleer tree that help the Smuggler much -- all of the Dirty Fighting specials are better than anything in Pistoleer.
The bottom line is that Pistoleer, on its own, is totally gimped ... but other professions can compliment powerful skills in other professions by taking some of our low level boxes, and when people think of "Pistoleers" they really think of Pistoleer/BHs and Pistoleer/Smugglers.
Your profession, Rifleman, makes more sense that way. Everyone who is a Rifleman actually wants to use a Rifle. And while one of your better attacks (/mindshot2) is near the bottom of your tree, by far most of the power comes when you get near Master and at the Master box itself. That makes more sense, and it's made Rifleman a better and more stable class as a result.
On this forum, our goal is to make all the broken and useless stuff in Pistoleer work, so the Pistoleer/Architect and the Pistoleer/Doctor have access to a profession that works. You'll always be more powerful taking other professions, like BH or Smuggler, but Pistoleer should work on its own.