Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Eat your heart out
Shazeen wrote:
gunner4life wrote:
LorenzoMh wrote:
That's still a pretty nice pistol in terms of damage. With a high damage slice (33%) you're talking 500 max damage without a powerup. And it's AP 1!
The slow speed is a drawback, but if you have +19 in pistol speed tapes, you cap your speed with last ditch (with that gun, anyways). Of course, getting +19 in pistol speed tapes is pretty challenging in of itself, probably moredifficult thanlooting theDE-10 schematic, aDE-10 pistol barrel,getting a nice krayt tissue, and getting a nice damage slice.
well said . this weapon will only help the very elite pistoleers .
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I wouldnt necessarily say that. You can get +5 Pistol speed just by mastering marksman. You can +3 Pistol Speed Gloves just by killing corsecs for a few hours. After that, its just a matter of finding one or two decent skill tapes and your in pretty good shape. I have 90 pistol speed right now, and it has required only minimal effort to collect. I am by no means rich (in fact Ive only broken the 1 million barrier once....and I just barely did that before I had to planet hop), but if you have cash it does make the search a little bit easier. Anyway, collecting tapes is a nice little quest that I think every pistoleer should work on at least once.
Vender: Rielig Steppes Mall, Dantooinewith +17 to pistol speed and a geo pistol 2.2 speed 404 damage without pup and the dirty fighting line from smuggler let me assure you that armor or no armor 44% to stun isn't going to keep me from putting the beat down on you.I hit a kd'd opponent in pvp for 1750+ damage, can you say ouch?
I realize the lb/ld combo is unavailable to pure pistoleers but I assume most pistoleers in pvp have either bh4 or dirty fighting.
Zalana wrote:with +17 to pistol speed and a geo pistol 2.2 speed 404 damage without pup and the dirty fighting line from smuggler let me assure you that armor or no armor 44% to stun isn't going to keep me from putting the beat down on you. I hit a kd'd opponent in pvp for 1750+ damage, can you say ouch?
I realize the lb/ld combo is unavailable to pure pistoleers but I assume most pistoleers in pvp have either bh4 or dirty fighting.
Back to this gun though = useless for pvp, with enough speed maybe ok for pve, there was an unsliced krayt one with max damage around 497 already.
A non armor clad person would take more damage from this weapon than a geo pistol anyday, if they were both enhanced with the same krayt. You Geo had near +100 tissue with near +20 cubes and a high damage slice, apply the same thing to a DE-10 and its the best weapon for a pistoleer in game when fightning a non-armored person. If someone is armored, the same krayt enhanced Geo can be superior.
Things to keep in mind: DE-10 has armor peircing, Geo does not. If someone has a vuln to composite, the geo will always be better if used with the same krayt and damage slice. If the composite has 40% or more to stun, they will be similar damage, with the DE-10 possibly more if the krayt level was high enough.
Furthermore, I have a 400 damage Geo myself and I never hit for 875 damage in pvp, or if you like, 1750 to a knocked down opponent. Your numbers are off. Your notion that this gun might be "ok" for PvE is hillarious.
Shazeen wrote:
Hawaii5_o wrote:
Let's just face that fact that this gun is a terrible addition to our arsenal and will actually hurt us more than help us. I mean, look at the speed and keep in mind that this is a KRAYT weapon! The Republic Blaster is 10x better than this pistol
If you dont like the weapon then fine, but I dont see how you could possibly argue that this could actually hurt us!? Speed is irellevant if you can muster up some extra speed (either through marskman/BH or skill tapes), and the damage on these things is way better than you will get on a republic. Its not a perfect weapon, but it will have its uses. Its the naysayers who are the ones that really need to face to facts here.
The way it will hurt us is that we won't be getting another weapon for a long long time because everyone will whine if we ask for an actual good pistol after this one. Don't you see? We've been waiting for a good AP pistol (that's not extremely rare and doesn't cost millions) for a long time and instead they've given this borked piece to us. This is the last pistol we're getting for a long time! Now we just have an arsenal of mediocre-crap weapons. They finally fixed the range mods on the DX-2 but the damage still sucks. The Republic has borked range mods(not a problem for a master or a dirty BH dabbler) but is AP and has a lot better damage than the DX-2. The Geo pistol sucks because it has no AP and with the growing popularity of stun comp armor this gun becomes worthless in PvP (not to mention almost worthless in PvE). And then there's the DE-10: Basically just a different looking Republic Blaster with horrible speed (even for a master) and *oh pinch me* BLUE BOLTS!!! I can hardly contain myself. At this point our best pistols are the Republic Blaster and the DX-2. And that's a sad sad fact.
Also, most Krayt Republic Blasters made with similar tissues are better than this gun in damage and especially in speed. And what facts do the naysayers have to face? We already have an AP1 Energy pistol that's a lot better than the DE-10. And, yes, speed is a major factor when it's as slow as this pistol. What uses willthe DE-10have?
People have complained everytime they add a pistol, so thats nothing new. The fact remains that they have kept on adding new ones even though there are a ton of pistols already in the game (whether you think they are useful or not is another debate). I think your imagining negatives here, although you are entitled to your opinions.
Anyway, this thing looks hella cool and I wont have a hard time using it (you know skill tapes, slices, & powerups make the speed here a non-issue...really 
), so Im going to make sure to add one to my inventory. Thats my final two cents on the issue.
Also, most Krayt Republic Blasters made with similar tissues are better than this gun in damage and especially in speed.
You're forgetting one important detail: Minimum Damage Discrepancy.
Hawaii5_o wrote:
Let's just face that fact that this gun is a terrible addition to our arsenal and will actually hurt us more than help us. I mean, look at the speed and keep in mind that this is a KRAYT weapon! The Republic Blaster is 10x better than this pistol
If you dont like the weapon then fine, but I dont see how you could possibly argue that this could actually hurt us!? Speed is irellevant if you can muster up some extra speed (either through marskman/BH or skill tapes), and the damage on these things is way better than you will get on a republic. Its not a perfect weapon, but it will have its uses. Its the naysayers who are the ones that really need to face to facts here.
it has been said this pistol will not be very useful until AFTER the combat balance changes go into effect-
all things related to combat- armor, weapons, professions will be beefed up/nerfed/chaged so that everything has its own usefulness
this pistol sucks now for anyone other than a master pistoleer/desperado but it also has HUGE HAM costs as well..... dunno about you guys, but i'm more worried about that horribly accuracy and the HAM costs.... sure the speed sucks, butthe damage is great