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Thread: Jedi vs Geo Pistol
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SLK
Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:06 am
#14
Actually, I believe the geon pistol fires balls of sonic waves wrapped in a plasma layer.. On inpact the plasma layer breaks and the sonic energies are released
But I also read a cartoon where a jedi tried to block it, and she got knocked on her back pretty badly.. It is possible to block it, but its not something you'd want to do every day..
The suggestion is then as following.. Lower the block percentage for both geon and scatter pistols...
To keep it fair
But I also read a cartoon where a jedi tried to block it, and she got knocked on her back pretty badly.. It is possible to block it, but its not something you'd want to do every day..
The suggestion is then as following.. Lower the block percentage for both geon and scatter pistols...
To keep it fair
BeWary
Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:42 am
#16
If Geo pistols were more "real" then they wouldn't be blockable, every hit would have a stun state attached to it, would exclusively hit the mind pool ( designed to KO, not kill after all),they would have a %0 wound chance, and would be overpowered and game breaking.
A few things to remeber about saber block:
States go right thru it. Not alot of help to a proff with no state inflictors but /lastditch has a stun state.
DoT's go right thru it. That mind poison/fire/disease pistol you payed an arm and a leg for because, as a pistoler we haven't got a hope of looting one on our own, is still effective, even if blocked. This include bleeds.
Stun drops block rates, it does. No matter what you may have heard, it really does.
IF you get thru, it's gonna hurt. Jedi have very litte ranged def, and no ranged mit, so only toughness is defraying any damage. There is no armor to cut thru, so the AP0, or 1 weapons we wield are not getting cut in half before they start to do their work.
I've played both sides of the fence, I've been a pistoleer forever, off and on, and recently took a spin at BH to better understand the mechanics of the missions being pulled on my Jedi.
My Jedi is master saber, so he has that high block rate. I know that tryin to deal pure damage, just hammerin away with a ranged weapon, isn't gonna work. Ranged are at a serious disadvantage vs master saber, but no more disadvantage than pistoleers are against any defensively stacked template, or %90 base armor and sliced PSG's.
A few things to remeber about saber block:
States go right thru it. Not alot of help to a proff with no state inflictors but /lastditch has a stun state.
DoT's go right thru it. That mind poison/fire/disease pistol you payed an arm and a leg for because, as a pistoler we haven't got a hope of looting one on our own, is still effective, even if blocked. This include bleeds.
Stun drops block rates, it does. No matter what you may have heard, it really does.
IF you get thru, it's gonna hurt. Jedi have very litte ranged def, and no ranged mit, so only toughness is defraying any damage. There is no armor to cut thru, so the AP0, or 1 weapons we wield are not getting cut in half before they start to do their work.
I've played both sides of the fence, I've been a pistoleer forever, off and on, and recently took a spin at BH to better understand the mechanics of the missions being pulled on my Jedi.
My Jedi is master saber, so he has that high block rate. I know that tryin to deal pure damage, just hammerin away with a ranged weapon, isn't gonna work. Ranged are at a serious disadvantage vs master saber, but no more disadvantage than pistoleers are against any defensively stacked template, or %90 base armor and sliced PSG's.
JediArashi
Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:46 pm
#17
Just t oback up one of the other posters claims about seeing it in a story, the recent issue of Republic has a female jedi infiltrate a stronghold filled with Geonosians. She tries to deflect a stun shot, but is knocked back andtakes the full brunt of theattack. She comments on how she should have been more aware that these stun blasts wouldn't be blockable.
Essentially I believe with them being plasma wrapped balls of stun energy, as soon as the saber hits them it releases the stun and although they are not hit int he chest/leg/head by the blast it still happens within srms reach of them, so they do get some diminished affects, but not much.
-Arashi
Bloodfin
Master_Pistoleer
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:34 am
#18
i have a book on weapons ppl, there is no plasma just sound. thats why its mostly used under water, it doesnt to very good against armor unless its very focused.
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