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Thread: Stopping Shot is dissapointing

Jedi_Badkitty
Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:01 pm
#14

hmm. i love stopping shot..i was getting 800-1200 with my 86-241 DX2 and 111-181scout ....now i get 1400-1800 have not seen it below 1400 yet..and i hunted for 2hours last night.and kept combat chat on.The one skill so far i was not disappointed to have gotten
fiarhaven
Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:38 pm
#15

just thought that i would add the contents of the orriginal message


http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=16885


Thats using a Krayt DX2, max damage without powerup 258. Dont tell me it aint possible to get a one **edit** incap in pvp. That pistol with a powerup is 165-343.





Fairhaven La'wen
Bounty Hunter
You can run, but you'll just die tired.
BeWary
Wed Oct 29, 2003 5:30 am
#16

Just so you know, the special he is hitting with is a smuggler special, not a pistoleer one. It is the strongest pistol special in game.

3400 before PvP reduction is 850 in PvP. It could 1 shot you if you got a small bar, not a sure thing but a lucky hit on a lucky shot.

I have seen this attack done with a krayt scatter for over 1k in PvP, so a bh weapon firing a smuggler special can 1 shot in PvP, we (pistoleers) don't even enter the equation.



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Philosopher1976
Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:24 pm
#17






Darkstorm7 wrote:

I just got stopping shot today. It doesnt seem so good. It has a long recharge rate, hits random HAM, and doesnt do very high damage. Yea it can hit for 1500-1700 ocassionally but sometimes i get hits as low as 500. Im using a 61-259 2.0 speed FWG5. Im only 0-0-3-1 currently. Will this special get better once i finish the pistol speed line and is fanshot better?






StoppingShot is the most overrated special in our tree. It isn't even worthwhile at Master -- you're still better off with BodyShot at that point -- and is only useful for BH pistol dabblers.


People look at the big damage numbers and go "wow", but they don't take into account the delay between shots. In terms of pure DPS, StoppingShot isn't good at low speeds ... it is beaten by DoubleTap, for instance. The fact that it is random HAM is the clincher, though. That means that it hits health 55% of the time ... why not hit health 100% of the time? If you're going to target health, do a good job at it and use a special that targets it 100% of the time instead of 55%.






Samra Hael
Master Pistoleer • Expert Bounty Hunter
KOTOR • Scylla


Moridroid
Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:08 pm
#18






BeWary wrote:
Just so you know, the special he is hitting with is a smuggler special, not a pistoleer one. It is the strongest pistol special in game.

3400 before PvP reduction is 850 in PvP. It could 1 shot you if you got a small bar, not a sure thing but a lucky hit on a lucky shot.

I have seen this attack done with a krayt scatter for over 1k in PvP, so a bh weapon firing a smuggler special can 1 shot in PvP, we (pistoleers) don't even enter the equation.




I was watching a smuggler using a scatter last night in a few pvp duels. He never hit less than 1k with lastditch. I really don't know if he had more of the BH skills or smuggler skills (or even pistoleer skills), but that was alot of damage he was putting out.



Shaitan Soulsbane



Master Bounty Hunter


Reliops
Wed Oct 29, 2003 6:09 pm
#19

My experience with stopping shot is actually good, I get 1000+ the majority of the time, with max up at 3500 sometimes 4k. havnt tried pistol whip combo just send the GSP in and RAPE em with fan I get 1.7 average with fan but speed is amazin. I have two Krayt fwg5 one is 80-302 1.4 Damg slice another is 55-272 .6 attack speed, those without power ups the 302 goes to abouy 400ish with dmg powerup and 272 goes to 305 I like em, just have to find good gun, I do not want to see a DX2 with the crafting exploit or normally.


CH 1-4-1-4


Pistoleer 3-4-4-4 almost Master just 300k more ;P


Reliops
Wed Oct 29, 2003 6:17 pm
#20

O ya and what I love bout SS is when I randomly get 10k dmg on lairs sometimes.


Its funn seeing


You shoot a Kamurith Defiler Pack Lair for 11065 damage.


You shoot a Kamurith Defiler Pack Lair for 10076 damage.



I love when that happens I have a screen too


http://darkslde0.tripod.com/screenShot0008.jpg


here are just some funny screens


http://darkslde0.tripod.com/screenShot0006.jpg


http://darkslde0.tripod.com/screenShot0012.jpg

Tullius_Cicero
Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:05 pm
#21






EasyMcRhinopants wrote:

The braintrust has decided that, at the speed cap, BS3 is slightly more efficient than Stopping shot at wearing down the health pool







Not quite -- Stopping Shot has a 5X damage multiplier (the 4.7 in the FAQ is not correct, at least not anymore), so as long as 50% of its damage hits health you are doing more health damage than BS3 with its 2.5X multiplier (unless that multiplier from the FAQ is also off).


But you need BH Pistol or a 1.0s weapon in order to fire Stopping Shot at the cap.

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