Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Jaegan, fight for us!
So basically the devs just want us to shoot other people's guns? That's the point to Pistoleer? Griefing? Oh, joy, that'll make us even more popular.
Totally agreed about the Carbineer guy ... he might want to take the time to read the sticky posts on this forum, because if he had he'd never say that carbineers have lower DPS than pistols. A carbineer with +100 speed always has way more DPS than a pistoleer with +100 speed.
Enough about that loser.
Guys, we need to go on a crusade for Pistoleer ... it's a lot easier to write a bunch of posts to the Devs than it will be to surrender all our skills and start over. So let's make some noise and make sure they know how foolish this move is ... they don't seem to pay attention unless there are 100 posts whining about one of their changes.
Destination wrote:
KillerGnomie wrote:
I swear if the devs make this a skill that "only" dmgs other players weapons, I am going to go griefing like there is no tomorrow. I have a lot of frustrations to take out after having CH nerfed into oblivion and now Pistoleer.
Surely, this is the best course of action. Who better to take out the frustrations caused by SoE and its developers on than the same people who must deal with it, just like you?
Let's all go around damaging each others weapons so the master weaponsmiths get even more of our money. Don't get me wrong, those smiths deserve a return on their investment - one which I imagine they collect with grand efficiency - but I can't think of a worse PvP concept than damaging another's equipment. I would rather be looted!
Hey Destination.. maybe I'll just imagine that everyone, whose weapon I am slowing blowing to pieces, represents one of the numerous whining, sniveling biatches that moaned and groaned untli they nerfed our most useful skill into a griefing skill - ironic isn't it?
Did you bother to read my post? A pistoleer will have way more DPS because he can spam BS2 all day long. A carbineer's DPS is measured more by normal shots and occasional specials interspersed. A carbineer firing legshot2 (our only decent pool specific damage shot) every 4th or 5th shot will not outdamage a pistoleer.
"because they still have the highest DPS output of the three ranged weapon classes."
I have seen no evidence of this, and would love to see some.
The data I have shows that in order of top DPS weapons, it's:
Rifle, Carbine, Pistol = lowest DPS.
In order of AR ratings, which affect DPS, we have:
Rifle AR3/AR2, Carbine AR2/AR1, Pistol AR1/AR0, for the most part.
So rifles get stacked AR bonuses on top of highest DPS, carbines also get stacked ARbonuses, although, no AR3 versions, and pistols get the lowest AR bonus, or often, a -50% damage due to AR0.
So where is the magical increase in DPS that pistols have over carbines/rifles?Are you using crappy weapons? are you a master Carbineer yet? Masters of thier profession dont seem to complain about these things from what I've read. I wonder why? Maybe you're comparing novice carbineers to master pistoleers? Does body shot 2 (lol) really kill people when anyone can stim off health/action damage? Does the DPS increase of pistoleers specials outweigh the lack of high DPS weaopons coupled with the worst AR ratings in the game?
Kuber I have no idea what fantasy world your getting this from. At master levels pistoleers have the lowest DPS by far.
Fastgun
please read this -
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=pistoleer&message.id=8808
From now on, i'm going to troll every thead i see NON-PISTOLEERS bitshing in the pistoleer forum about thier skills!!!!
THIS IS THE PISTOLEER FORUM. NOT THE CARBINEER/BOUNTY HUNTER RANT BOARD!!!!!
we need a mod to clean this trash up...
If your skills are broken go post it in the appropriate forum.. Pistoleers post here because they are pistoleers and this is the pistoleer forum. I could give 2 rats azz's about carbineers and don't go ranting in the carbineer or bounty hunter forums.
/sigh
Im not gonna hold my breath for pistoleer to become worthwhile again after this patch.
master rifleman here I come! 
That's a nice idea ... what about a Pistoleer march? I heard about a group in AO that did this to protest a change by the Devsand they got some results. We just get together every pistoleer we know and march from say ... Kaadara to Moenia or from Bestine to Anchorhead. If you get 100-200 people per server, it looks awfully impressive to the Devs.
We just need to do *something.* It's obvious the Devs don't read these boards. Are you contacting the Devs, Jaegan?
Philosopher1976 wrote:
Guys, we need to go on a crusade for Pistoleer ... it's a lot easier to write a bunch of posts to the Devs than it will be to surrender all our skills and start over. So let's make some noise and make sure they know how foolish this move is ... they don't seem to pay attention unless there are 100 posts whining about one of their changes.
I like this Phil, we can try two things:
1.) everyone picks one day to run around and PvP using only a cheap CDEF maxed out for damage and we run around only damageing weapons. Enough petitions will come up to force the dev's to do something, but they might nerf it again and make it even less useful then it is now, not sure how they'll do that, but hey, their SOE, I'm sure they can find a way, that's why they went to school right?
2.) we pick a server, create a new character and all go to the same planet, same town. If the server's are similar to those of EQ, if to many people are on the same area, the server will crash. If we actually cause it to crash, we move on to the next server and do the same. Then the Dev's will see the number of people they are upsetting and might do something to calm us down, like fix the problem, they really can't nerf us because we didn't use anything for them to nerf, except for creating a new character, hehe. (can you imagine if they nerf new character creation, LOL, only onetoon per account, LOL)
I personally like number 2, no one really get's hurt (sorta), and it really makes a point, a point that we arein great number's, we are upset with what they have done, we're tired of being jerked, and we demand to be heard, one way or another, you'll have to come here and speak with our main man and work out a settlement 
Right Jaegen, heheh (don't you just love it when you'r draged into a fight? Mwahahahaha)
And yes, number 2 I got from EQ, I was there when all the ranger's logged into the same server and same zone and caused the server to crash, we took down a level 24 mob with a hundreds of level 1 rangers, LOL. We were heard, hopefully the same will happen again.
Hey, I just thought of something, about my second idea. Aren't the server's caped on the amount of toons that can be created on one server? If so, if we can get enough people together to cap off all the server's, then they will be forced to listen to us unless they want to do a mass character wipe, which we will only redo the same thing, or they can open a new server which we can still do the same thing. You think we have the people to tie up their server's and keep new people from creating new toons? Or is the server cap only for the amount of toons on at that time?