Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Master Pistoleer Defeats Master Rifleman
With no buffs, maybe food, and no armor, this isn't so surpsising under the right circumstances. With those things in place, and like you said good tactics, pistoleer can take out rifleman. Especially if you can get up close, where they have bad accuracy, and possible land a pistol whip.
I took one out a couple weeks ago, but I think I cought them off guard. Neither of us had buffs or armor, so starting with health2, couple fanshots, and a few BS3, they were down.
"uh huh, problem is there is not a single thing in pistoleer itself that can beat a riflemen, everything is external (buffs, armor, food), give that riflemen a 400 max jawa and the same quality foods and buffs and guess what? You just got served. It doesn't matter if you get buffed to the gills and kill an unprepared riflemen, when it comes down to it if you fight on even terms the pistoleer will always lose, that's the problem."
That's not entirely true. Unbuffed the pistoleer would probably even have the advantage due to heavy mind costs on rifles. The only reason they are often so disregarded is because of being able to stack 2 brandies and negate most of the cost.
And I know this is possible because I did it yesterday. 
When both players are buffed though, this often doesn't happen because it becomes a war of attrition, and mind pools generally tend to be much lower than the health and action pools. Plus they can't be healed.
Anyways, the complaining and griping about it all isdnt going to help us out much. We know this issue is known and that it's being adressed in the combat balance pass. So at this point it basically comes down to the waiting game.
Repaq wrote:<--Rifleman on valcyn here. come get somemy stomach is usually full of the following .. 2 brandy, one focus food (forget the name even though i buy a ton of it) both of these last for close to 40 minutes, and sythsteak. i can shoot and use absolutly no mind with 700+ mind encumberance composite on.i'd have to say that it would take pretty damn close a miracle for a pistoleer to beat me one on one.you guys need some love i hope you get it in the combat balance.
Thank you for proving our point.
) a pistoleer would probably win. im not sure of the cercumstances of this little brawl, but as a 4/1/2/2 rifleman i have had even NOVICE pisolleers hand me my ass on many occasions.
Roishin wrote:
NO! no buffs, no food, no spices, no armor it would be an even match, even though rifles usually outdamage pistols, u guys have better acc. while moving, and ur specils can apply more statis affects.
Sorryif i pissed anyone off with my little rant... but the fate ofmost of PvP or dueling is decided w/ the players experience. if the rifleman is a n00b (like me
It might just be the fact that im not very skilled w/ rifles, of the pistoleer had a bitchin pistol or what-not, but u guys r making it sound like RIFLEMEN R THE ENEMY!!! lol i just wanted to clarify that.
any ways.. good job on the kill and congrats!
1) we don't have a single special that has any status effects, yet riflemen has single Stun/AOE stun, single dizzy/AOE dizzy ... so how exactly do we have more status effects?
2) once you actually master riflemen you won't have any trouble with pistoleers... unless there's like 3 of them.
Xytroncore wrote:
Roishin wrote:
NO! no buffs, no food, no spices, no armor it would be an even match, even though rifles usually outdamage pistols, u guys have better acc. while moving, and ur specils can apply more statis affects.
Sorryif i pissed anyone off with my little rant... but the fate ofmost of PvP or dueling is decided w/ the players experience. if the rifleman is a n00b (like me
It might just be the fact that im not very skilled w/ rifles, of the pistoleer had a bitchin pistol or what-not, but u guys r making it sound like RIFLEMEN R THE ENEMY!!! lol i just wanted to clarify that.
any ways.. good job on the kill and congrats!
1) we don't have a single special that has any status effects, yet riflemen has single Stun/AOE stun, single dizzy/AOE dizzy ... so how exactly do we have more status effects?
2) once you actually master riflemen you won't have any trouble with pistoleers... unless there's like 3 of them with Sonic Pistols
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Roishin wrote:
4/1/2/2 rifleman
Wild__Bill wrote:
Roishin wrote:4/1/2/2 riflemanHere's your problem right here. When you hit Master you will own nearly every profession in the game as it stands now. Your biggest problem as a Master Rifleman will be the melee professions with dizzy & KD. If you get to close you will die. If you stack Rifleman with a melee profession or CM you will have total ownage.
lol, that will all change in the coming combat balance..Devs said long ago they were implimenting a combo system into the combat system, I geurantee head shot spammers will need to learn how to fight all over again..
Its probably going to be something along the lines of; if you Spam a shot it weakens considerably each attack, so in order to be affective you actualy have to place more then head shot 3 in your toolbar, ie. Combo's will be the future of GCW combat, not spamming head shot and bragging about how good your skills are..
Trust me, in less then one months time, eyeshot/headshot will be a thing of the past as far as being the own all special...
Sith-N-Horns wrote:
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- With the right combo of Food & Tacticsyou should do very well against Riflemen