Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Pistoleers are getting the most love
BeWary wrote:
ummmm, 1 reason carbines rock
NO TIMER ON CHARGE SHOT, or whatever the ranged kd is called.
Back when all we had was pistol wip and there was no timer we got nerfed in record time. You guys get to keep this little gem so far. How can anyone possibly combat an opponent who can just macro up 4 seconds worth of attacks a kd and just repeat. Crap, make it 3 seconds worth of attack, the kd and then stim and poof, unstoppable 1 on 1 killing machine.
If you don't like your mods, maybe you should look into them. We can give you dodge stats pre and post patch. Can you do the same with counter-attack? Be little less vague in your whimpering and maybe talk to the carbineer correspondant about this, we don't care. We have our own problems to deal with.
Go home, or quit the game. Just leave the carbineer crap in the carbineer forum.
Glad to see you haven't played a carbineer. You do know there is a 6 or 7 second delay between charge shots, and they all get straight back up from a KD, and you run a good 6 or 7m closer to the target flailing wildly, and all this has to be done from standing, reducing our accuracy by a great deal. After charging in, you have to turn around and run back out to get your ideal range, not to mention the insane HAM cost.
<sarcasm> Oh yes, this special is l337. </sarcasm>
I have no issues with other classes being fixed sooner than carbineer, but when someone says our class is good... you just know that person has never been a carbineer.
Some people don't really realize thatour HAM costs can easily kill us before we kill the enemy. And yes, there is a delay between charge shots for the typical carbineer.
- Bleda Lamulos: Master Carbineer/Investigator
yup most unbroken combat class gets the majority of upgrades, ahead of pikeman and carbineers.
Been reading this forum since launch and apparently Pistoleers complaint is broken specials, or specials given higher up the tree having less dps than those at the bottom...
Well every profession has moves with bigger multipliers and greater delay...its not exclusive to pistoleers.
Carbineer is a great class. It has it's draw backs (Ham costs), but regardless its a great class.
All state effects,ranged KD (Without a timer), AP2 weapons, and best of all a 6.5 damage modifier special.
Carbine mixed with doctor is WAY more effective than pistoleer mixed with doctor.
One thing a carbineer always needs to have is tat sunburn. A carbineer with a good stock of tat sunburn is a killing machine.
BH carbine 3/Carbine/Nov medic and tatsunburn... Not even riflemen stand a chance. The key thing to making this template work is the tat sunburn. 1second crippling shots is an amazing thing. It puts riflemen to shame(that is sort of hard to belive)
Get over the HAM costs of your weapons. Tat Sunburn will nullify that, and it has no draw back.Or if you want go doctor. A pistoleer/smuggler(only real way a pistoleer can be as effective as other classes is by dabbling in smuggler/BH) doesn't have the option of going doctor.-DP
ROFL, going to have to copy that one.
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MasterNerfSlayer wrote:
BeWary wrote:
ummmm, 1 reason carbines rock
NO TIMER ON CHARGE SHOT, or whatever the ranged kd is called.
Back when all we had was pistol wip and there was no timer we got nerfed in record time. You guys get to keep this little gem so far. How can anyone possibly combat an opponent who can just macro up 4 seconds worth of attacks a kd and just repeat. Crap, make it 3 seconds worth of attack, the kd and then stim and poof, unstoppable 1 on 1 killing machine.
If you don't like your mods, maybe you should look into them. We can give you dodge stats pre and post patch. Can you do the same with counter-attack? Be little less vague in your whimpering and maybe talk to the carbineer correspondant about this, we don't care. We have our own problems to deal with.
Go home, or quit the game. Just leave the carbineer crap in the carbineer forum.
Glad to see you haven't played a carbineer. You do know there is a 6 or 7 second delay between charge shots, and they all get straight back up from a KD, and you run a good 6 or 7m closer to the target flailing wildly, and all this has to be done from standing, reducing our accuracy by a great deal. After charging in, you have to turn around and run back out to get your ideal range, not to mention the insane HAM cost.Oh yes, this special is l337.
I have no issues with other classes being fixed sooner than carbineer, but when someone says our class is good... you just know that person has never been a carbineer.
Maybe at novice it has this delay but I get it spammed on me often. By the time I'm on my feet BANG I'm down again. You are aware that the rest of us can't kd an opponent for another 30 seconds right? 6 or 7 at novice aint so bad.
And if you have them on the ground in ideal range what the hell are you running around for?
So what if they stand up, learn how your kd works. Just cause they are standing don't mean they are shooting.
Go get yourself a snub nose built for speed and some doc buffs and get back to me about this "useless" special.
carbineer is great - no discussion there but 1st of all the ham is really bad (you can counter this with doc combo or spices/foods) and second - to counter my 3.4 speed on the laser carbine I need to use powerups (which decrease condition every other shot) or have to go BH which is too many points for my liking.
Did you know that carabineer at master has only 60 speed mod ? VS Pistoleer with 74 and most guns with 2 base speed and rifleman with 90 - the difference between 60 and 90 is that rifleman get to shoot 4 times faster with AP 3 weapon
BTW when was the last time any of you guys soloed at master levela couple of night sisters ???(without using CH skills - nothing but pure master pistoleer).A few days agowith my rifleman with novice rifleman and 1 square in conceal shot I killed solo 4 of them and they never knew I was there.
When was the last time any of you went krayt hunting and actually stole the kill from a flamethrower commando. Yes - rifleman can do that.
And in PvP - when was the last time any of you did 2 shot kill to a crowd at 30 meters - I mean 3 people with strafe 2.
I used to be pistoleer hehe then I switched to carabineer and I'm keeping that char but I'm also building a master rifleman.
Pistoleer is great as a dabbling profession - pistoleer and smuggler with last ditch panic shot and low blow? - that's a real cool combo. Pistoleer and a BH - another great way to PvP. Profession is not broken beyond reason but is far from the best one out there. Anyway - just thought I'd give my err insight - lol
BeWary wrote:
Maybe at novice it has this delay but I get it spammed on me often. By the time I'm on my feet BANG I'm down again. You are aware that the rest of us can't kd an opponent for another 30 seconds right? 6 or 7 at novice aint so bad.
And if you have them on the ground in ideal range what the hell are you running around for?
So what if they stand up, learn how your kd works. Just cause they are standing don't mean they are shooting.
Go get yourself a snub nose built for speed and some doc buffs and get back to me about this "useless" special.
Yes I am aware that you have a 30s timer. Sure that is bad, not saying it isn't. You don't get chargeshot1 at novice.
Why am I running around? I told you. Chargeshot1 has this god awful animation that makes you run at the target. You can't use charge shot from kneeling either, greatly reducing our accuracy. So, *if* you hit, it's nice, but they get straight back up anyway. Note: This works well when you're in a group.
I know how my KD (doesn't) work.
Did you not read my post at all? I'm a master doctor. I buff myself before I fight, because I know I will kill myself with my weapon. I haven't revisted snub noses yet. I will do that.
I don't want to drop carbineer yet. *if* it gets fixed, it should be an awesome class, and I hope I have to come back here to apologise for claiming that it's underpowered. But, until that day.....
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wow... thats the funnies don't feed the trolls thread I have ever seen.. even funnier then James Pendragon's Don't Feed the Trolls sig hehe(that sig was from UO in case anyone is wondering...)