Pistoleer Archive

Thread: Can us BH's PLEASE have the DE-10 pistol?

Gratdo
Sun Apr 18, 2004 4:44 am
#14


Frankly, since doctor buff are so powerful (and quite easily obtainable), any decent contender in PvP can wear a full compo. And with a composite, only one thing matter: either the damage is stun, or it's not.


A pistol with electric, cold or blast damage will meet the same damage resists from the compo, generallyat least60%, and maybe more. Only stun is hard to get above 30%.


And even if all the opponents do not wear such composite, basing your strategy on the hopes you won't meet them is a losing battle.
gunner4life
Sun Apr 18, 2004 1:13 pm
#15

the sonic pistol isn't bad , i have a halfway decent crafted one that reaches a max damage of 360 . however the problem is that every halfway serious pvper is wearing stun layered composite ranging from 7 on most pieces and 35% on chest and helm . so even the absolutely worst stun layer armor is blocking atleast half of our damage . factor in buffs and it will take a long time to get someone's ham down especially since we have no state effects or special moves ( a mediocre 5 second knockdown which requires you to get in melle range ) . if your opponent has novice medic or is being healed by a group member you frankly have no chance . also unless you have uber skilltapes you will need to use health shot 2 or fan shot for maximum damage per second since a pistoleer needs a 1.3 or faster speed weapon to make it worthwhile to use our highest damage special stopping shot . the geo blasters are inherantly slow weapons and unless you have legendry krayt tissues or get a killer speed slice ( which means the gun will have less damage ) your geo will never be 1.3 or less speed .



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Raptor2k1
Sun Apr 18, 2004 1:23 pm
#16





I'm fine with putting the DE-10 at BH Pistols IV, but shouldn't a master of pistols have the scatter, DE-10, and launcher pistols SOMEWHERE on the way to master? At least that's the way I think it should go...






I'd say no on the LP at the very least, as it's not a pistol, it's a heavy weapon. It makes use of pistol skills, but it grants heavy weapons experience, so it's a heavy weapon pistol.


Plus, the Combat devs want to keep blast damage as being a commando specialty.



Now, as to the DE-10, maybe they could make it something like Pistols IV or Master Marksman?



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Jpshaff01
Sun Apr 18, 2004 1:25 pm
#17

Dude all you need is attachments and magically all your guns are 1.0 speed. But thats not what i'm talking about, what i was saying that if its not cold or electrical what the hell else do you want. Do we want this gun to have damage type: Unknown




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PillowTech
Sun Apr 18, 2004 4:53 pm
#18


Raptor2k1 wrote:
Now, as to the DE-10, maybe they could make it something like Pistols IV or Master Marksman?

Wow I think that would rather piss me off if they made it a Master Marksman Cert. What a waste of skillpoints that'd be.



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TheWeaponsmith
Sun Apr 18, 2004 4:59 pm
#19

Sorry us smugglers are taking this gun


Well we can hope anyways....






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true_Kieran
Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:07 pm
#20


Pistoleers have 3 lines of pistol xp and 3 Pistols, BHs have one line and 1 pistol, Smugglers have two lines and no pistol, now tell me again what you deserve.




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Ehecu
Sun Apr 18, 2004 7:58 pm
#21



true_Kieran wrote:
Pistoleers have 3 lines of pistol xp and 3 Pistols, BHs have one line and 1 pistol, Smugglers have two lines and no pistol, now tell me again what you deserve.





Give me a friggin break... the pistol needs to be improved and given to the true masters of the pistol, not the cowards who run (if the game were working as intended -_-) and disgrace the name FWG5...



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Kevie
Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:16 pm
#22

wow this thread was doomed from the beginning




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Rowdyredneck1
Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:42 pm
#23

"What a waste of skillpoints"

HA! Welcome to the world of bounty hunters! Sucks, doesn't it?



Bounty hunter, since the days we had to master marksmen and scout and investigation three missions where worth 129 investigation exp and the mark was never there. Plus there were no mounts or bikes, we walked damnit! And we liked it (well, not really, barely made enough money to cover shuttle costs and keep the equipment in good order)
Jpshaff01
Mon Apr 19, 2004 12:58 am
#24






gunner4life wrote:





Gratdo wrote:


Frankly, since doctor buff are so powerful (and quite easily obtainable), any decent contender in PvP can wear a full compo. And with a composite, only one thing matter: either the damage is stun, or it's not.


A pistol with electric, cold or blast damage will meet the same damage resists from the compo, generallyat least60%, and maybe more. Only stun is hard to get above 30%.


And even if all the opponents do not wear such composite, basing your strategy on the hopes you won't meet them is a losing battle.







so true it hurts . at best if its electric , blast or electric we will get another option for pve ................



oahep acto







At this point we have gotten the sonic blaster so what else can we hope for, you can't be sad they gave that to us and its an awesome gun. If they give us cold that will be better for krayts where we suck, and electrical will be good for the corvette.




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gunner4life
Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:25 am
#25






Jpshaff01 wrote:
Dude all you need is attachments and magically all your guns are 1.0 speed. But thats not what i'm talking about, what i was saying that if its not cold or electrical what the hell else do you want. Do we want this gun to have damage type: Unknown







i need attachments totalling +20 pistol speed to make the de-10 worthwhile , i dont know what the economy is like on your server but it would cost me roughly 15 million credits on my server , maybe thats pocket change for you but for 99% of pistoleers that is not possible .


i would like to see a ap-2 , short range weapon for pistoleer (for pvp or high end pve ) or a stun weapon like the geo with ap-1. as it stands a cold , bast or electric damage version of the current de-10 will only benefit us in pve and that is if we have pistol skill tapes .




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Jpshaff01
Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:31 am
#26

ok, recap. We already got our pvp gun, so this is going to be a pve gun.




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