Pistoleer Archive
Thread: GET YOUR Pistoleer PVP TEMPLATE HERE
JuddaFett
Sat Mar 20, 2004 1:59 am
#144
What you might also take into consideration with our templates is that we can always add +25 in pistol speed and accuracy mods to our armor.
Garabaldi
Sat Mar 20, 2004 3:57 am
#145
Just read this entire post, personally im going Master Pistoleer, BH Pistols 4...but one thing which no one seems to realise here is:
Melee/Ranged defenses ARE capped currently at 125...check the dev stratics chat
MCPrimetime
Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:57 am
#146
Apathy2112 wrote:
I was thinking of having a master pistoleer/master marksman/sniping (rifleman sniping 4)/rogue (dirty fighting 4)/tka meditation 4 template. Just wondering if you think this template is any good.
Shadowfire- Astili- Bounty Hunter 0/0/4/0
Master Pistoleer
it's interesting, but there are at least 3 templates I can think of that are better. depends on what you will use it for...
Arriranha
Sat Mar 20, 2004 12:28 pm
#148
I am migrating from Master Pistoleer/ Fencer 4440/tka2301/smuggler0040
to
Master Pistoleer/Master Fencer/TKA4300 or 4003/smuggler0040
My focus used to be on pistoleer but I am now considering the Kung Fu Stack (TKM/MBrawler/Fencer4440/Pistoleer0040), this stack has the best defenses against Knockdown/PostureChange/Dizzy, and we all know that besides Mind Poison (nerf now please) and headshots (gimme mind stims please, make mind the same as action and health), the combo of knockdown/dizzy and posture change/dizzy, is the same as an I win button. Added that a Master Brawler is more effective from 20m than the pistoleer, im very tempted.... and if the name Quai Chang Cain is not taken..... 
Kung Fu Big Game Hunter...yeah....
Cronix
Sun Mar 21, 2004 2:46 pm
#149
im going for Master Pistoleer / Smuggler 0040 / Doc 0240
i buff and cure my own states ( dizzy, blind, intim. etc..) and i still do good dmg
MCPrimetime
Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:02 pm
#150
TheMacker wrote:
After weighing all the pluses and minuses I am stillthinkingabout my final template. Iam really torn between BH 0/0/4/0 + Master Pistoleer + Rifleman 0-1-0-0 and Master TKA + Master Pistoleer + Fencer 4/0/0/0 + Smuggler 0/0/4/0 + Marksman 0/4/0/3. Basically the major skill mods for each are:
Melee/Def Stack
Defense Vs. Blind +50
Defense Vs. Dizzy +45
Defense Vs. Knockdown +70
Defense Vs. Posture Change (Down) +50
Defense Vs. Stun +55
Defensive Acuity +96
Dodge +120
Melee Defense +183
Pistol Accuracy +95
Pistol Accuracy While Moving +30
Pistol Accuracy While Standing +15
Pistol Aiming +16
Pistol Speed +74
Ranged Defense +125
BH/Pistoleer
Defense Vs. Blind +40
Defense Vs. Dizzy +40
Defense Vs. Knockdown +50
Defense Vs. Posture Change (Down) +20
Defense Vs. Stun +40
Dodge +105
Melee Defense +52
Pistol Accuracy +155
Pistol Accuracy While Moving +30
Pistol Accuracy While Standing +15
Pistol Aiming +16
Pistol Speed +129
Ranged Defense +30
so bascially the melee/def template is getting huge pluses to dodge, melee/ranged def and the ability to powerboost and heal wounds however whats lacking the most is pistol speed and last ditch hits random pools.
now lets see the bh/pistoleer skillsget decent dodge and a huge pistol speed bonus and accuracy bonusbut the biggest plus is eye shot which targets a specific pool.
Now with my geno blaster (3.0 spd 280dmg) to spam specials I would need atleast +90 pistol speed. The bh/pistoleer has this easy but the mel/def needs to get some serious skill tapes/plates to hit that but it is possible.
SO after this long post, I guess I am trying to say that if you think you can out shoot thier mind pool and hope they can't do enough dmg to you (hopefully you have 90% comp/buffed/etc.) and are not worried about constant wounds then bh/pistoleer is not a bad option. However having them miss you more often, power boosting, healing wounds and last ditch might just be the best bet.
I can only comment on the mel/def template and so far its working pretty well in PVP, however it takes me awhile to drop someone, can anyone with bh/pistoleer comment on how pvp is after the latest patch? Feel free to post your corrections, comments, etc.
I've done both templates exactly, and the jury is still out in my books as to which is the best. My worry is when they nerf the mind pool (publish 8), if the BH eye shot becomes a waste. My gut tells me BH/Pistol is better until publish 8 only...
TheMacker
Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:31 am
#151
After weighing all the pluses and minuses I am stillthinkingabout my final template. Iam really torn between BH 0/0/4/0 + Master Pistoleer + Rifleman 0-1-0-0 and Master TKA + Master Pistoleer + Fencer 4/0/0/0 + Smuggler 0/0/4/0 + Marksman 0/4/0/3. Basically the major skill mods for each are:
Melee/Def Stack
Defense Vs. Blind +50
Defense Vs. Dizzy +45
Defense Vs. Knockdown +70
Defense Vs. Posture Change (Down) +50
Defense Vs. Stun +55
Defensive Acuity +96
Dodge +120
Melee Defense +183
Pistol Accuracy +95
Pistol Accuracy While Moving +30
Pistol Accuracy While Standing +15
Pistol Aiming +16
Pistol Speed +74
Ranged Defense +125
Defense Vs. Blind +50
Defense Vs. Dizzy +45
Defense Vs. Knockdown +70
Defense Vs. Posture Change (Down) +50
Defense Vs. Stun +55
Defensive Acuity +96
Dodge +120
Melee Defense +183
Pistol Accuracy +95
Pistol Accuracy While Moving +30
Pistol Accuracy While Standing +15
Pistol Aiming +16
Pistol Speed +74
Ranged Defense +125
BH/Pistoleer
Defense Vs. Blind +40
Defense Vs. Dizzy +40
Defense Vs. Knockdown +50
Defense Vs. Posture Change (Down) +20
Defense Vs. Stun +40
Dodge +105
Melee Defense +52
Pistol Accuracy +155
Pistol Accuracy While Moving +30
Pistol Accuracy While Standing +15
Pistol Aiming +16
Pistol Speed +129
Ranged Defense +30
Defense Vs. Blind +40
Defense Vs. Dizzy +40
Defense Vs. Knockdown +50
Defense Vs. Posture Change (Down) +20
Defense Vs. Stun +40
Dodge +105
Melee Defense +52
Pistol Accuracy +155
Pistol Accuracy While Moving +30
Pistol Accuracy While Standing +15
Pistol Aiming +16
Pistol Speed +129
Ranged Defense +30
so bascially the melee/def template is getting huge pluses to dodge, melee/ranged def and the ability to powerboost and heal wounds however whats lacking the most is pistol speed and last ditch hits random pools.
now lets see the bh/pistoleer skillsget decent dodge and a huge pistol speed bonus and accuracy bonusbut the biggest plus is eye shot which targets a specific pool.
Now with my geno blaster (3.0 spd 280dmg) to spam specials I would need atleast +90 pistol speed. The bh/pistoleer has this easy but the mel/def needs to get some serious skill tapes/plates to hit that but it is possible.
SO after this long post, I guess I am trying to say that if you think you can out shoot thier mind pool and hope they can't do enough dmg to you (hopefully you have 90% comp/buffed/etc.) and are not worried about constant wounds then bh/pistoleer is not a bad option. However having them miss you more often, power boosting, healing wounds and last ditch might just be the best bet.
I can only comment on the mel/def template and so far its working pretty well in PVP, however it takes me awhile to drop someone, can anyone with bh/pistoleer comment on how pvp is after the latest patch? Feel free to post your corrections, comments, etc.
:: Moe'Skrilla
TheMacker
Tue Mar 23, 2004 9:30 am
#152
Ya, thats why I am thinking about keeping the melee/def template, dropping it now for BH, only to have that nerfed and then go back to the melee/def is not gonna be fun.
MCPrimetime
Tue Mar 23, 2004 11:21 am
#153
TheMacker wrote:
Ya, thats why I am thinking about keeping the melee/def template, dropping it now for BH, only to have that nerfed and then go back to the melee/def is not gonna be fun.
re-grinding melee without using pistol bleeds would suck hard
TheMacker
Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:27 pm
#154
I take back what I said, I dueled some guys in FIGHT tonight and learned that with a geo pistol you can't beat KD/Torso shot, it cuts through the armor and the fire will keep incapping you. Its pretty nasty, and I went down hard, even when spamming last ditch at almost the speed cap.
My only problem with dropping it all for pistoleer/bh pistol is how can you heal yourself/cure poison disease/heal wounds in a battle? with only 13 skill points left there isn't much left to invest in. Anyone have any thoughts?
TheMacker
Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:39 pm
#155
Sorry for posting so much in your thread, 
Anyway call me crazy but Iam considering: BH 0-0-4-0, Pistoleer 0-1-2-1 and TKA 4-0-0-0
For Torso Shot, Eye Shot, some Pistol Acc and Speed, and Meditate (power boost and fow also) and Geo Pistol Cert.
skills would end up like this:
Defense Vs. Blind +40
Defense Vs. Stun +40
Defensive Acuity +15
Dodge +10
Melee Defense +14
Pistol Accuracy +125
Pistol Accuracy While Moving +5
Pistol Aiming +3
Pistol Speed +91
Ranged Defense +15
MCPrimetime
Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:53 pm
#156
TheMacker wrote:
Sorry for posting so much in your thread,
Anyway call me crazy but Iam considering: BH 0-0-4-0, Pistoleer 0-1-2-1 and TKA 4-0-0-0
For Torso Shot, Eye Shot, some Pistol Acc and Speed, and Meditate (power boost and fow also) and Geo Pistol Cert.
skills would end up like this:
Defense Vs. Blind +40
Defense Vs. Stun +40
Defensive Acuity +15
Dodge +10
Melee Defense +14
Pistol Accuracy +125
Pistol Accuracy While Moving +5
Pistol Aiming +3
Pistol Speed +91
Ranged Defense +15
Personal opinion, but meditate to me wouldn't be worth losing range damage mitigation 3 and 64 dodge.
Message Edited by MCPrimetime on 03-26-2004 08:30 AM