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Thread: Pistoleer Specials that Affect Enemies State

cyberrico
Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:50 am
#1

I am currently a MCH with dirty fighting 4 and some pistoleer.


I am looking for a special in the pistoleer line that affects an enemy's state both in PvP and PvE. Currently I use low blow followed by panic shot which keeps them under my control for 10 seconds. I would like to add a little icing on the cake by giving them a dizzy or stun or anything that affects their ability to fight back.


Also, I have enough points to get 3 boxes in pistol. I currently have body shot 3 for the great dps to health. Should I invest it elsewhere?


Thanks in advance for any input.




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-GKar-
Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:55 am
#2

Body shot 3 is actually horrible.....i suggest stopping shot instead......and not a single pistoleer shot has a state to it, which is another thing alot of us pistoleers complain about.



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Tullius_Cicero
Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:33 am
#3

There are no state changes in the Pistoleer tree, except the knockdown in PistolMeleeDefence1.
RobbPilot
Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:59 am
#4

And the PMD1 knockdown doesn't work consistently on high level targets... even for a master gunfighter.
Rador
Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:03 am
#5

I am a Master Pistoleer. We get no State effects . Which IMO sucks badly since a Carbine has state effects in the Regular Marksmen skill tree. About our KD. Well it fails too much to use if tha target is of any level. The Upgrade PMDII does NOTHING! Also the 2 Master Pistoleer specials we get Multi-Target and Disarm II Do NOTHING. I have tried to see what they do and I can't even see them doing any damage.



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DirthNader
Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:10 am
#6






Rador wrote:
I am a Master Pistoleer. We get no State effects .



That sucks and needs to change.



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Bolanos
Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:10 am
#7

Not only does our KD get resisted ALOT, but it also decreases the condition of your weapon
Peadar
Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:49 am
#8

Yeah, we getno state effects and our lousy KD sucks big time....On Dant I rarely knock down anything there...but give me a gorg or nuna...they're toast!!!



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Kielker
Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:20 pm
#9

You'dbe better off using Last Ditch sinceyou've already got the Dirty Fighting line from Smuggler. Its the same delay as Stopping Shot, but more damage than Stopping Shot.


Ifyou go up the pistol Stances line, you can decrease the long delay and get Pistol Melee Defense1 for knockdown. If you go all the way up the Stances line and get a 1.0 speed gun (maybe using speed slice and powerup), you should be able to shoot Last Ditch once every 1.84 seconds.


But yeah, we get no state effects other than knockdown. Use the onesfrom Smuggler.




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Inhocmark
Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:27 pm
#10

The one thing I'm curious about is what state they could give us.


We generally target body so realistically dizzy and blind are out.


We have small guns, not too intimidating


Only thing I could think of is a Stun percentage on something like Stopping Shot. You get slamed in the bread basket with a hard blast there should be a chance that you are stunned.





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Alliance City, Rori Lowca
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Katal
Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:24 pm
#11






Rador wrote:
We get no State effects . Which IMO sucks badly since a Carbine has state effects in the Regular Marksmen skill tree.



Heh, we also don'ttake 1/4th of our own HAM away every time we pull the trigger.




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Inhocmark
Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:00 pm
#12






Asquiol wrote:

That can be worked around. BH pistols has blind, thats a small gun. Just being a small gun should have no bearing.



EG:


Pop someone in the kneecap with a pistol, KD.


Pop someone in the chest, stunned.








But the Bounty Hunter shot hits the Mind pool so blind makes sense. Our specials hit the Health pool, think Body type states





Khaijin Traj'Malek
Leader- Aftershock Alliance
Alliance City, Rori Lowca
"I do not kill with my gun. He who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father; I kill with my heart."
Masamune033
Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:43 pm
#13

But really, most of our specials hit random pools. Only one health targeted regular damage shot in the pistoleer line. Every other one is a random pool. So it doesn't matter what pool our targeted attack is, just because we usually shoot for the body doesn't mean h\we couln't hit someone in the head from time to time.



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