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Thread: Can a master pistoler kill a jedi?
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kraftwerx
Sun Jun 13, 2004 2:37 am
#1
Hey guys! Ive Been woundering what are a master pistolers chances agenst a Jedi with out BH skills? Or even killing a Padawan? what type of gear would you suggest using?
Announcerharris
Sun Jun 13, 2004 3:42 am
#2
To be honest, I don't know if can be done without bounty hunter, but I know it can be done with those BH pistol skills.
As a master pistoleer, you'll want to equip good 80% kinetic comp armor, as that is what lightsaber currently do as damage. Get fully buffed, incluuding musician/dancer for your mind and then drink two brandy, and eat that food that gives a resist to KD--I'm sure you can find the name of it in the Chef forum. After that, fill the rest of your stomach with either vercupti or veg. canape. For a weapon, I'd choose a geo blaster.
As for tactics in battle, you'll basically want to stay outside 32m of the jedi, and spam fanshot. If he uses force run, then burst run away--terrain neg. skills help a lot as well. If the jedi closes in to melee range, just pistol whip him--I dont believe jedi have any KD resists, but I could be wrong. Also, make sure you have Novice Medic and a good supply of stim b's on you.
Lemme know how it goes 
Message Edited by Announcerharris on 06-13-2004 03:45 AM
Scrup
Sun Jun 13, 2004 3:42 am
#3
yeah i think so.... i was running around, just killed some npc's and this wookies rolls up on his speeder(i was in there town at the time) and i say hi.... he says hi.. neither of us are overt, i am teffed though.. before i can do anything his rifle dissapears and i can shoot him.. so i do.... then i see a red lightsabre come out, and of course i freak out... i run circles around him spamming healthshot2 he hits me once and does something that hit my mind, but im buffed and gots some nice food so its gone in no time... meanwhile he's down to almost half health... so he hops on his bike(i regret not taking that out first now) and takes off....sends me a tell saying he ran out of force power or i'd of been dead... i asked him for a rematch and he wouldnt do it...i checked the combat logs... he tried to knock me down too but it missed...and i tore him up... perhaps hes just starting.. i dunno i doubt newbie jedi get the mind thing and knockdown...but i almost ruined his day... so yeah... i think so... btw.. im 2-2-4-2 pistoleer..4-4-3-4 artisian..0-0-2-0 smuggler..1-4-1-4 marksman..0-0-3-0 medic..4-0-0-0 brawler..0-0-1-0 scout so im not all that impressive right now...(slowly switching professions, it was hard going from crafter to combat.. lemme tell ya..lol..)thats why i say yeah a master pistoleer should have no problem.. i used a geno blaster that hist for 79-250 i think... not sure as im kinda drunk now but its not that great.. pistols rule all...
ganesh666
Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:58 am
#4
To be frank, jedi are notoriously poor in pvp, a low level jedi could be beaten easily by many professions including pistoleer. However a jedi guardian you would have problems with as pistoleer as they will block many of your shots with their lightsaber (they have a lightsaber block skill mod). And there is no way you could run from a jedi if they used forcerun. Forcerun2 gives jedi huge amounts of speed (much faster than burst run) and also gives them +50 terrain negotiation. I've watched jedi run up and down hills lightning fast. Also jedi will pretty much have very good armour on so you will do minimal damage.
So low level jedi vs. pistoleer = pistoleer would probably win (as long as they knew what they were doing)
High level jedi vs. pistoleer = possible chance pistoleer would win (if they were clever and had some very good guns) but the jedi could just forcerun away and there wouldn't be a lot you could do (if you try and catch up on swoop they will just saber throw at your bike).
So low level jedi vs. pistoleer = pistoleer would probably win (as long as they knew what they were doing)
High level jedi vs. pistoleer = possible chance pistoleer would win (if they were clever and had some very good guns) but the jedi could just forcerun away and there wouldn't be a lot you could do (if you try and catch up on swoop they will just saber throw at your bike).
MrSclod
Sun Jun 13, 2004 8:36 am
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ganesh666 wrote:
High level jedi vs. pistoleer = possible chance pistoleer would win (if they were clever and had some very good guns) but the jedi could just forcerun away and there wouldn't be a lot you could do (if you try and catch up on swoop they will just saber throw at your bike).
What about click your Radar to 128M and stay outside the 64M attack range and wait till his force run is done ?
AlephNull43
Sun Jun 13, 2004 9:34 am
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Force Run 1/2 isn't like Burst Run. There is no delay afterwards, so they can activate it again right after it runs out. I am not sure about the regen rates for a 4444 Guardian, but I am sure he/she could keep running for quite a while...
MrSclod wrote:
What about click your Radar to 128M and stay outside the 64M attack range and wait till his force run is done ?
EDIT: I think Force Run 2 (Or FR 3 in the new system) is faster thana swoop... Not sure on this...
Message Edited by AlephNull43 on 06-13-2004 09:35 AM
Xytroncore
Sun Jun 13, 2004 11:14 am
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/laugh
Okay, here's how it'll be, anyone will be able to kill a jedi knight IF the knight has taken NO skills in the jedi deffence branch (that gives them ubar toughness, block, and a bunch of other stuff that'll make you do no damage). With my pikeman I almost beat a knight on the TC2, I know it's different then pistoleer but since he had no deffences I almost won it was only my HAM costs that killed me... then after that fight I fought a deffence master and all of a sudden my 500-600 damage hits went down to 30-40 damage hits, so it'll all be situational for if a pistoleer could beat a mid level jedi, I doubt it's possible to beat a guardian btw, their high level dirvishes do like 600 dps or something like that.
Squidwalker
Sun Jun 13, 2004 11:49 am
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If both are unbuffed and unarmored, yea likely. With good tactics yes. Remember jedi are melee, so you can kite.
NaKitNa
Sun Jun 13, 2004 1:46 pm
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I do hope they bring the Jedi down a notch or two on those defense mods. They are way out of wack. Jedi shouldnt even be in this time frame and certainly should not be very powerful due to no teachers. That is neither here nor there. Hopefully any Master Elite profession should be able to takeout a padawan with planning.
Xytroncore
Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:32 pm
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Squidwalker wrote:
If both are unbuffed and unarmored, yea likely. With good tactics yes. Remember jedi are melee, so you can kite.
Force lightning, force weaken, saber throw are all ranged attacks (among others).... so no, you can't kite them.
Maccus
Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:42 pm
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I killed one last night. Im a Master Pistoleer and BH 3040. He barely scratched me.
Fordep
Sun Jun 13, 2004 10:51 pm
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Scrup what server was that on?
Sounds like the stupid Jedi I killed last night. He was using his lightsaber in the middle of Coronet!
for goodness sake, don't use your lightsaber in Coronet if you don't want to die.
JawaJoey2
Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:37 am
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Just go on TC2 and find out. As a Master Bounty Hunter, it's damn near impossible to beat a jedi one on one. If they have defense, than you simply can't kill them. They a power that basically absorbs incoming shots, I have yet to see someone hit a Jedi for more than 70 damage, and 90% of the time the Jedi blocks it. A large portion of the combat log is "[Master Bounty Hunter]shoots at [Jedi] for 0 points of damage, but he blocks it." Seriously. I was chasing a guy using force run, while I was ona swoop, andI was definitely going faster, but he might not have been using Force run 3 or whatever, and I'm pretty sure he was going faster than a landspeeder, I'm not sure about a speederbike.
But the only way to kill any jedi for a whole group of BH's to spam fast blast. Fastblast is the only thing that even did damage. On TC2, those high level Jedi are way overpowered. If anyone should be able to kill Jedi, it should be BH's.
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