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Thread: DE-10 post CU is worthless.

Gundarkfarmer
Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:21 am
#1

That's right.


My old 780 max dam (w pup) now is horrible, truly horrible. Talking DPS, my krayted republic blasters is tons better. My old DE-10 gets around 498 dps, while my "best" krayted republic blaster gets about 545. Even my old pre-pre nerf FWG 5 has better DPS then my DE-10, a gun that took 140of looting to get right, and 8 "failed"DE-10's before that.


And here is some fun, a crafter made normal Elite carbine has higher DPS.


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majinbush
Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:43 am
#2

Man i tottaly feel with ya.
I love the cu but this is just a outrage. a krayted de 10 having worse dps than a non krayted pre cu 165 dam dx2.
Seriously what the hell went wrong?
other than that i love the cu.






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NorekUgle
Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:47 am
#3

The DE-10s got nerfed big time, to bad krayted weapons have lower dps then non krayted weapons. My best DE-10 got 500dps that can be beaten by many other pistols
Jaspor
Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:12 am
#4

Sad, very sad indeed.

Considering how many times this was mentioned, you'd have thunk the Devs would have caught on.


This is the kinda thing they shouldbebeaten over the head with until they say "Okay, you're right, we'll change that."




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LordMaxx
Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:40 am
#5

The unfortunate truth is the Republic and DX2 are the pistoleer weapons. Those will be our weapons they want us to use for end game and that is why they are balanced higher.

The DE10 while recieving its damage boost is hindered by a high rate of fire...that is what makes its DPS worst. I have asked the devs the intention of the DE-10 and why it has been made available to anyone of sufficient CL and I have not had any feedback yet...but they are rather busy



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KyrYxus
Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:58 am
#6

Its just plain effing ridiculous to say the least. How much work goes into procuring just the components for a DE-10. Just the dmg values alone are converting to sheerand utter crap. I've been supportive of the CU this whole time but to say the least I'm disgusted and no longer have ANY desire to log in tonight and that is saying quite a lot.





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CaixCatab
Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:30 am
#7

Keep pushing Maxx. If anyone gun's going to be our top choice, it should be the DE-10. It doesn't really have to be better than our other Master guns as long as it looks and is at least on par.



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Seogae
Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:48 am
#8



LordMaxx wrote:
The unfortunate truth is the Republic and DX2 are the pistoleer weapons. Those will be our weapons they want us to use for end game and that is why they are balanced higher.

The DE10 while recieving its damage boost is hindered by a high rate of fire...that is what makes its DPS worst. I have asked the devs the intention of the DE-10 and why it has been made available to anyone of sufficient CL and I have not had any feedback yet...but they are rather busy


Please stay on top of this Maxx.

I just spent almost 2 months gathering supplies to make a 537dmg de10 and now I fell like it was a complete waist. It is the most difficult pistol to obtain and then if you wanted a good slice you had to do it many times. The De10 should remain the best DPS pistol in the game.

I never got to pvp once with this gun..



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Julak
Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:53 am
#9

lol, so now they dont want us going to the death watch bunker? i mean this blows, we can have an uber pistol by paying a weaponsmith 15k, instead of having ot hit the bunker, get awesome tissues, blow tons of money on our buffs and what not for the previous two things, then pay outrageous amounts of money to get a 600+ de-10? that sucks, i mean i cant tell you how good it felt to get my first geo crafted for me, it took me a run to the cave then me and my buddies killed about 10 krayts before i got the tissues i needed, and that was my happiest day playing, getting that inner glow feeling of accomplishment. now they just want us to pay weaponsmiths for a gun that we have no relationship with at all.



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Jaspor
Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:28 pm
#10

Might want to start making some posts in this thread with exact numbers, looks like the Dev in charge of conversions is looking at it:




Where it asks "what specifically is out of balance. ", explain the difficulty and cost involved in getting a DE-10 relative to its new level of suckiness.


Worth a shot...




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KaiRan
Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:01 pm
#11


A few months back I blew anbout 10-15 mill gettign components, incl exceptional Krayt, for my DE-10. The sliced result (a mere 22% dam) was a respectable 490 max.


Yesterday I dropped 3 million on a respectable 383 max dam Modified republic.



Today, the DE-10 does less max damage than my non-krayt'd DX-2!


DE-10 came out at 843 or so max

Mod Rep came out at 920 or so.



It looks like I had the missfortune of not having a PUP on it, as now all my PUP'd weapons have higher conversions and permenant yellow names...


Frankly, I am LIVID. The ADK on my 313 max dam prenerf Krayt FWG will need me to destroy or sell that weapon to get it on my now far better pre-CU 250 Featherweight!!!


How is any of this making ANY sense? Last I checked, The republic and DE-10 shared a basic template- pre-CU they were both the same "base". So how can a weapon a full 107 points higher with the same base come out nearly 100 points less than the other?!

Message Edited by KaiRan on 04-28-2005 07:03 PM



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WylotheUber
Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:03 pm
#12

I know what you mean. My DE-10 is now useless...Even my 200 dmg puped Featherweight FWG-5 does far better damage (higher DPS byabout 50).
Kells
Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:50 pm
#13

My krayted Republic Blaster is 900+ while my krayted DE-10 is 700+, go figure.




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