Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Anyone else pissed that BH have a better pistol than Pistoleers?
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Tymothi
Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:24 pm
#1
The scatter pistol fricken owns all of the pistols you get for being marksman and pistoleer. True BH spend more skill points but that doesn't mean that ALL their weapons should be uber. WE'RE FRICKEN MASTERS OF THE PISTOLS! Why should a BH be better with a pistol than someone who specializes is pistols ONLY?
ssublime42
Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:30 pm
#2
Patience, the game is changing, always changing. Lets at least wait till after the profession revamps before ranting.
OB540
Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:34 pm
#3
BecauseBH has to use way more skill points, there only defense is offense, so they have to kill before being killed.
maldito2
Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:00 pm
#4
I was a Master BH, Long ago. Since then I have gone through 17-18 professions.
I'm becoming a Pistoleer and staying a pistoleer, I gave up on Jedi, But I must say BH should have better weapons based on your very on comment
"Pistoleers are better with pistols" I just think Pistoleers get alot of defensive Mods and Speed mods. and Yeah it always comes to the Skill point spent, they should get something for there lack of skill points.
So like OB540 said " they have to kill before being killed"
answer Scatter Pistol, and yeah scatter pistols Rule!!..but if you own one piece of armor it should be an acid resist comp. Helmet.... 
problem solved
ratlif
Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:47 pm
#5
don't worry
$180 dollars later ( 1 year of subscription payment ) Pistoleer may be able to NOT have to dip into other professions to be competitive
Every profession has many problems. Look at merchant. Most people have to have 2 accounts if they want to be able to say be a armorsmith and sell their items. They need the merchant skill to have good vendors, along with the extra storage space of the 2nd account to store all their items.
$180 dollars later ( 1 year of subscription payment ) Pistoleer may be able to NOT have to dip into other professions to be competitive
Every profession has many problems. Look at merchant. Most people have to have 2 accounts if they want to be able to say be a armorsmith and sell their items. They need the merchant skill to have good vendors, along with the extra storage space of the 2nd account to store all their items.
Nifty
Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:50 pm
#6
BH's should have the ability to wield weapons that do every damage type in the game (they are resourceful.) They should be very good with the weapons they use (they are diversified) but not quite as good as a master of one profession (they are not specialized in any one weapon.) They should get very nice special moves (they are specialized in killing their marks.) They should get a +25 to hit bonus on their current mark (again, specialized in killing their marks.) They should get the ability to intimidate their mark, and maybe only their mark(again, specialized in killing their marks.) They should get some melee and ranged defensive bonuses, ranged mitigations, either dodge or counterattack,and some state defenses (they are skilled in defending themselves.) On top of that, they should get extra bonuses against their mark (they have studied their mark's habits and know the mark's tendencies.)
All of that would makemaster BH's dangerous opponents in combat with a non-mark and extremely deadly opponents against their marks. I think that would justify their skill point investment while keeping them just a bit below the master specialists. Sure the carbineer and pistoleer would be better individually at carbines and pistols, but the BH has the advantage of pulling out the lightning cannon, or using another damage type that the carbineer and pistoleer might not have access to.
Of course, that would be highly dependent on separating the BH carbine and pistol trees so they don't stack with carbineer or pistoleer trees (only way to do that is create more BH specific weapons.)
Slipp-Wilson
Sat Mar 06, 2004 3:24 am
#7
pistoleers should be able to weild Any pistol.... it honestly makes no sense why we arent able to. . .
fairbrother1969
Sat Mar 06, 2004 4:40 am
#8
I'm a master in pistoleer,smuggler and tk, from what i have seen mbh is one of the last proffesions that needs a nerf or any kind of abilitys taking away from them, they have vertually no skill points left by the time they master bh and have sod all to do once they get there, wow they can chase jedi, next to smuggler they have the least content in there profession. Lets leave them alone and focus on what we can do or not do which is more to the point, lets face it a bh is supposed to be a killing machine. Fix our speacials and then see what happens. I can take out mbh at will because of our dodge, and if you are being owned to a mbh just get yourself a goood helmet lol, eye shot is the only thing they have that is worth anything let's face it.
JediMizzaster
Sat Mar 06, 2004 8:32 am
#9
What the hell are you talking about? BH already has been nerfed 50 freakin times. Go buy yourselves a nice Geonisian pistol, that's the best PvP gun in the game (stun damage) if you can find yourself a nice. I'm sick of whiny people like you crying for BH to be nerfed. WE HAVE NO DEFENSIVE MODS for Christ's sake! Quit crying just because we have a slightly better pistol than you.
BuzzardBoy
Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:38 am
#11
ssublime42 wrote:
Lets at least wait till after the profession revamps before ranting.
Uhh....yeah. We've been waiting since...well about a month or two after launch. At this rate,there's no tellingwhen the supposed "combat balance" is going in. If it takes this long just to fix a weapon cert...I'm looking at owning a TIE before I'm a viable force as a Pistoleer.
Zaphar Waverunner 
Dark Jedi Padawan
RylanStorm
Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:56 am
#12
"Yeah it always comes to the Skill point spent"
About 50% of the points spent by a bounty hunter are non combat skills. Ive heard this argument a dozen times before and it never holds water. Building camps, and being able to find a mark dont make you better at killing people in combat.
Maybe a a person with master armoursmith, master weaponsmith and master architect should be able to kill a bounty hunter since he has spent more points.
It has nothing to do with the points spent but the skills obtained.
Apolo13
Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:18 am
#13
bounty hunter as better " guns " ?
the only " guns " a BH gets is the scatter and the LLC .
the LLC can only use specials at 16m max range and if you shoot it unbuffed you death in 3 shots (and you miss 70% of the shoots you fire ) .
the scatter is the only BH good gun , and if you like it so much its very simple , just become novice BH and you can use one ...
what a stupid post...
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