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Thread: Master Pistoleer/Master TKA/0040 Smuggler vs. same with 0030 Commando

DarthShaky
Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:08 pm
#1
I am going for Master Pistoleer and Master TKA and then I thought I would drop something on one of those professions and go for 0040 Commando so I could have the powerful Flamethrower specials. But I am reading a lot about the 0040 Smuggler with Last Ditch. Should I just get Master Pistoleer/Master TKA and 0040 Smuggler and then something else as I will still have skills to burn? And if so, what should I get?
Raptor2k1
Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:29 am
#2
Smuggler is great. Lowblow is hands-down the most useful special attack I think you can get for pistols. It works great in both PvP (on your average target, some folks have a lot of KD defense) and PvE.



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Dyraak_Sinh
Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:28 am
#3
Yeah, Low Blow is the reason to get Dirty Fighting. Last Ditch is a random pool shot, so therefore not as useful to you as HealthShot1 and HealthShot2.



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Atama
Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:41 pm
#4
I see a lot of complaints about smuggler attacks rarely working, and I personally gave up smuggler when they nerfed feign death.

If I wanted to be a TKM/Master Pistoleer, and I didn't care about Master Brawler (which I heartily recommend to anyone serious about TK) I would do 4440 medic (giving you awesome injury healing abilities) and 4003 marksman (ranged support will augment your pistol skills and give some added ranged defense) leaving you with exactly 0 skill points.



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DarthShaky
Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:24 pm
#5
/bump
Xytroncore
Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:38 pm
#6




Dyraak_Sinh wrote:

Yeah, Low Blow is the reason to get Dirty Fighting. Last Ditch is a random pool shot, so therefore not as useful to you as HealthShot1 and HealthShot2.






Except for the fact that besides Eye shot it's the only pistol special in the game to apply a state on your opponent, which if you're not going BH for eye shot you'll really need in PvP. Stun is big against fencers and TK's, since they're already the lowest damage dealing brawler proffessions they're the most effected by stun's reduction in attack power. It's not useful against Riflemen or Swordsman because of their already large power and the reduction in damage doesn't seem to scale any higher for them, but meh, it works wonders on fencers/tk's/pistoleers.So don't think of last ditchas just another random pool attack, because it's not.


Oh and BTW, it's one of the strongest attacks in the game, only cripple shot from carbineers has a higher dmg multiplier, a good DE-10 with speed attatchments and it owns.




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GoodToTheTouch
Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:18 pm
#7
crippling shot is 5x...... last ditch is 6x
Raptor2k1
Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:58 pm
#8
Well, the point is, it's extremely powerful. Not to mention that if you can afford to pick up some BH pistols and cap your speed, last ditch attack with the speed cap hits health faster than the specific pool attacks.


My personal favorite attack combo with rogue was to lowblow then lay into them with last ditch until they got back up. I actually took down several MRifleman this way (though in one case we were both unbuffed.)



Kyeran Halkyon

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MagicHobo
Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:12 pm
#9
I seem to have the problem that most of the time, enemies rip through my defenses with range and melee. So I did the template that you have - MP/TKM/smug 0040 and put the rest into fencer 4010. This gives me access to 2 really good stun weapons. This puts my melee defense at 181 and my ranged defense at 121. Uber if you ask me...




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acmtalk
Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:54 pm
#10
ok man pistoller without BH is really uselles , BH gives u alot more acc and speed + eye shot and torso shot rules , now that u dont have to be master scout anymore , u may want to get some fencer and max your dodge then + get dizzy attack and low blow from smugler .. you will own in pvp



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Xytroncore
Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:05 pm
#11




GoodToTheTouch wrote:
crippling shot is 5x...... last ditch is 6x





uh unless it got nerfed crippling shot is at least 7x, it was like that at launch.


From the Carbineer Corespondent: Crippleshot 2.5 7.5 0.8 / 1.8 / 0.8 (7.5 being the damage mod, and 2.5 being the speed mod)

Message Edited by Xytroncore on 07-14-2004 09:08 PM



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Atama
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:24 pm
#12
According to the SWG Damage Calculator, Crippling Shot is 5x.



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Xytroncore
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:43 pm
#13




Atama wrote:
According to the SWG Damage Calculator, Crippling Shot is 5x.




And where is that damage calculator? You do know quite a few fan sites haven't updated much of anything in a long time.... I'd trust the coorespondent's date over someone else's any day.



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