Pistoleer Archive

Thread: Knockdown (pistol whip)

Glibly
Thu Aug 07, 2003 11:11 am
#1

Why not make the chance that knockdown works proportional to your skill with the weapon in hand and inversely proportional to the creatures knockdown defense?


High level mob could only be knocked down by people with high knockdown skill. If the devs think a mob should be very hard to knock down, they just give it lots of knockdown defense.


Its simple, effective and the code seems to be there already (more or less). Seems to make a whole lot more sense and be more managable than the blanket 50% or no spam or ... other fixes that they are/have/will try.


The more I think about it, the more I like it.


(I posted this in the General Forum and got no response)



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ShiroRX
Thu Aug 07, 2003 2:00 pm
#2

its ok to put this is in regarding wpn spec knockdowns, but this guy also posted this on the smuggler forums saying Low Blow should work the same way. if it did it would force smugglers to take pistoleer in order to have effectiveness in one of their dirty fighting lines.



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Glibly
Thu Aug 07, 2003 2:34 pm
#3

What exactly makes smugglers knockdown special? No, don't answer that. The fact that you even mention it here says enough.



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ShiroRX
Thu Aug 07, 2003 2:35 pm
#4

its special the same way their entire Dirty Fighting line is special.



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Glibly
Thu Aug 07, 2003 2:38 pm
#5

I agree completely. In other words, its not special at all.


Didn't I ask you not to answer?




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ShiroRX
Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:03 pm
#6

wat makes you think i would do anything you say?



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Darth-Towelman
Thu Aug 07, 2003 8:33 pm
#7

don't answer this guy... hes a jerk... if people don't think his way he has a hissy fit.



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Jim0322
Fri Aug 08, 2003 12:12 am
#8

That makes too much sense. It will never happen in SWG.


Jim

Glibly
Fri Aug 08, 2003 6:11 am
#9

You are incorrect sir. The only thing that upsets me is people who disagree but don't support thier argument in any way and when challenged to do so pull in all kinds of irrelevant fact and sophistry in order to make themselfes look correct.


You cannot point to a single post where I have 'been a jerk' to anyone who wasn't acting like a child.


I, on the other hand can point to several of my responses to people who have disagreed with me, in a sane understandable manner wherein I sometimes even agree with said dissident.


Its comments like yours, on the other hand that I take offense with. Just because I don't put up with silly posts like yours and just because I challenge people whomake stupid (yes stupid) assertions doesn't make anything I have to say less valid nor does it make anything you have to say more valid.


If this is what you call a 'hissy fit' and why you called me a jerk, then I stand accused. I see no point in trying to argue with people who haven't learned the very basics of debate (assuming you don't call sophistry a 'basic of debate').




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Aerius
Fri Aug 08, 2003 9:44 am
#10

Knockdown already takes con into account. The KD nerf was meant as for PvP balancing so players couldnt get spammed to death by them (blame it on the people who sit ontop of someone and hit pistol whip until they die). It's unfortunte that it will affect PvE too, but what can you do.






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Glibly
Fri Aug 08, 2003 10:07 am
#11

"what can you do."


Artificially boost PvP knockdown defense (the way they are aritifially reducing PvP damge).




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Josue15
Fri Aug 08, 2003 10:13 am
#12

It look slike we will have until Early next week until the big patch make the live server. The Dev just announce they wanna have the "Big Patch" in early next week. Get as much experience as you can!



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ShiroRX
Fri Aug 08, 2003 10:18 am
#13

i have panic shot and feign death to fall back on. /highfive



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