Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Health Shot 2 vs. Last Ditch
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Pug
Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:09 am
#1
If what I've read is correct, then...
- Health Shot 2 has a damage multiplier of 3.0. It is the highest-damage, pool-specific pistol-based special.
- Last Ditch has a damage multiplier of 6.0. It is the highest-damage, random-pool pistol-based special.
I read in another post that random-pool hits have a 3-2-1 ration for hitting H, A and M. That is, for every 6 random-pool shots fired, 3 will hit Health and 3 will not (2 will hit Action and 1 will hit mind).
Very generally then, these two attacks seem the same to me in terms of damage to the Health pool. Am I correct with this generalization? (Ignore other reasons to choose one over the other including bleeds, stun, etc.)
RenKesson
Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:17 am
#2
Since you're hitting Health only half the time with Last Ditch, it's more likely that you'll hit the maximum damage value your weapon is capable of less frequently than with HS2, which you're most likely to spam continuously against Health. With a lucky hit, Last Ditch WILL do more damage against Health than HS2. But with hitting Health only half as often as HS2, you're less likely to see a x6 Damage multiplier on 300 max damage than you would be with HS2.
PercyBlackdragon
Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:18 am
#4
If we are ignoring all other factors and just comparing damage to the HEALTH pool only then I'd say thats a fair generalization
Ren - GRRR
Maybe someone should start sending me PMs so you dont know anything about it.
Message Edited by PercyBlackdragon on 12-15-2004 02:19 PM
Message Edited by PercyBlackdragon on 12-15-2004 02:20 PM
RenKesson
Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:27 am
#5
ROFL! I'm turning into the Pistoleer Forum Troll, lol
I just sit at work, checking the forums and working on workie stuff.
Just glad to be able to contribute. 
Oh, and FIRST AGAIN!
PercyBlackdragon
Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:31 am
#6
Although if you check the SOEdefinition of troll we are nothing like it.
Giving good advice and information and answers to questions would make us:
CSRs 
RenKesson
Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:48 am
#9
/agree
Hmm... I wonder who you talk to to apply for a job as a CSR....
Message Edited by RenKesson on 12-15-2004 12:49 PM
raz1337
Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:49 am
#10
PercyBlackdragon wrote:If we are ignoring all other factors and just comparing damage to the HEALTH pool only then I'd say thats a fair generalizationRen - GRRRMaybe someone should start sending me PMs so you dont know anything about it.Message Edited by PercyBlackdragon on 12-15-2004 02:19 PM
Message Edited by PercyBlackdragon on 12-15-2004 02:20 PM
What else is there to compare it against? The stun state? Random pool has it's uses, but when you're fighting an opponent and you get them down to 200/3000 health, and you need one more shot to kill them, and your random pool decides to hit action 2 times in a row, it's frustrating.
Abai
Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:27 am
#11
I'm a big user of Last Ditch myself, however in this case I would go with Health Shot 2 myself. Comparing the two only from damage output and hitting the HAM, then I think the 3-2-1 ratio is found in a larger scale than just 6 shots. I've found on 10k HAM creatures that the ratio is more like 3-3-0 or 4-2-0 this is how the bars are most often.
Anyway I really don't feel that the two shots should be compared as I see them as complimentary of eachother. It's just about what tactics you are using. The reason I prefer Last Ditch is the damage multiplier and combined with Low Blow the damage is awsome and most often the two shots I can get in while the Low Blow is in effect, is on health. Another reason for my choise of Last Ditch is that I most often fight alongside other professions and pool specific attacks are usually not that important.
Anyway I really don't feel that the two shots should be compared as I see them as complimentary of eachother. It's just about what tactics you are using. The reason I prefer Last Ditch is the damage multiplier and combined with Low Blow the damage is awsome and most often the two shots I can get in while the Low Blow is in effect, is on health. Another reason for my choise of Last Ditch is that I most often fight alongside other professions and pool specific attacks are usually not that important.
kovusreturn
Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:04 am
#12
Hey guys!
I am Master Smuggler and master Pistoleer for some time now. But even though everyone keeps telling me how cool Last Ditch is I can't see how it (or any special) is any better then Health Shot 2.
I know it ain't stylish maybe, but I seem to take down mobs much faster when spamming Health Shot 2 (because it all goes to Health pool) then Last Ditch.
Is it just me or am I missing something?
Croll
Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:38 am
#13
From what I recall Last Ditch would be slower than healthshot2without Bounty Hunter speed or speed tapes. I can take out most DantooineNPC'sin two shots with my DE-10 and Last Ditch.
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