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Thread: ATTN:DOT WHORES I need some DOT advice.
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Alepe
Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:28 pm
#1
In a PvP situation, Will the Health bleeds attack stack? Not just Health Shot 1 and Health Shot 2 But I also have a Modified Republic Blaster. Here are the blaster stats: Type - bleeding, Attribute - Health, Strength - 105, Duration - 105s, Potency - 75%.
So this is what I mean. During a PvP fight, Using me Geo Blaster, I hit my opponent with Health Shot 2, then I hit him with Health Shot 1, then I switch to my Modified Republic and hit him with that. So essentially I have hit him with three seperate health bleed shots. Will they all stack? What happens if I use my modified republic blaster to shoot the Health Shot 2 and Health Shot 1? Would I still get three stacking hits? If they don't stack, how do you determine is I use Health Shot 2 or just attack with the Modified Republic?
Thanks for your help.
wildtrack
Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:56 pm
#2
mm why call those of us who use dot whores when you are planning on using them duh my name is alepe and my brain is a piece of mush
anyway health bleeds are not any good against pc in pvp normally they are buffed so they regen to fast in pvp a mind bleed is better
anyway health bleeds are not any good against pc in pvp normally they are buffed so they regen to fast in pvp a mind bleed is better
Alepe
Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:09 pm
#3
Wildtrack,
Thanks for your attempt to helping me but you did not answer my question. I agree with what you are saying about a mind bleed being better. And I have that as part of my arsenal. But to fully understand how bleeds/DOTS work, I still would like to get this question answered.
And your comment "my name is Alepe and my brain is a piece of mush" Hmmmmm I guess maybe you are trying to be funny. I will take the high road here.
In case you didn't get it "DOT whore" is a complement. Duh......
I believe that using DOTS is an intricate part of PvP and that is why I am trying to learn more about that aspect of the game.
I hope to someday be "THE KING DOT WHORES"
trajen2
Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:54 am
#4
Alepe:
Yes. Bleeds do stack as long as they are from different specials and different guns. The best 'bleed-only' macro is to equip a modified rep. blaster and use /healthshot1, /healthshot2....this sets three bleeds. If you have BH pistols skills add /torsoshot and /bleedingshot. This sets a significant bleed/fire onhealththat WILL work in PvP, contrary to what some believe. To add fuel to the fire, you can equip your health-poison geo and use the same macro to add a health poison in as well. Most people who PvP can only use stimpack C's so a fire, a poison, and 4 bleeds sill sap the health right out of em. .. if you have a secondhealth poison geo, equip the second and its poison will stack along with the other. . . or a health-fire . . . if those dont work, spam /eyeshot with your mind-fire and mind-poison guns.
With DoTs, all things are possible!
Inat Mivea
RBN - Reborn
Alepe
Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:22 am
#5
Damn,
That is exactly what I was looking for. So basically I can hit someone with three seperate health bleeds, then I can still hit them with an Action Poison, Health Poison, Mind Poison, Mind Disease, and Fire Action shots if I have all those weapons. And they would all stack? Do I have this correct? I am aware of the weapon transfer delay.
LSM_Vader
Sat Nov 20, 2004 7:03 am
#6
bleeds mainly suck in pvp, ur better off just getting mind dot geos
Alepe wrote:
In a PvP situation, Will the Health bleeds attack stack? Not just Health Shot 1 and Health Shot 2 But I also have a Modified Republic Blaster. Here are the blaster stats: Type - bleeding, Attribute - Health, Strength - 105, Duration - 105s, Potency - 75%.
So this is what I mean. During a PvP fight, Using me Geo Blaster, I hit my opponent with Health Shot 2, then I hit him with Health Shot 1, then I switch to my Modified Republic and hit him with that. So essentially I have hit him with three seperate health bleed shots. Will they all stack? What happens if I use my modified republic blaster to shoot the Health Shot 2 and Health Shot 1? Would I still get three stacking hits? If they don't stack, how do you determine is I use Health Shot 2 or just attack with the Modified Republic?
Thanks for your help.
Uthyr
Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:37 pm
#7
RenKesson wrote:
Bleeding Shot causes a Mind Bleed, not Health, I believe. Use it in conjunction with Eye Shot. Stick all those other Health Bleeds on as well, though, since they tend to have a significant psychological effect on your opponent.
Again I'll paste a quote I made in an earlier thread, just to clear up any misconceptions:
BleedingShot is not exclusively a Mind DoT. It bleeds all three HAMs. I confirmed that today with a field test, where I shot several perleks, eachwith a single BleedingShot and then peacing, and watched the ticks. Most of the time, all 3 pools seemed to tick at about the same rate (I didn't actually measure them--this is just my casual observation). Once, I saw only Action and Mind tick, and Health did not tick at all over the course of a couple of minutes.
This is not the first time I've seen people state that Bleeding Shot is a mind-only bleed. I am guessing it is mistakenly listed that way somewhere?
RenKesson
Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:38 am
#8
trajen2 wrote:
Alepe:
Yes. Bleeds do stack as long as they are from different specials and different guns. The best 'bleed-only' macro is to equip a modified rep. blaster and use /healthshot1, /healthshot2....this sets three bleeds. If you have BH pistols skills add /torsoshot and /bleedingshot. This sets a significant bleed/fire onhealththat WILL work in PvP, contrary to what some believe. To add fuel to the fire, you can equip your health-poison geo and use the same macro to add a health poison in as well. Most people who PvP can only use stimpack C's so a fire, a poison, and 4 bleeds sill sap the health right out of em. .. if you have a secondhealth poison geo, equip the second and its poison will stack along with the other. . . or a health-fire . . . if those dont work, spam /eyeshot with your mind-fire and mind-poison guns.
With DoTs, all things are possible!
Inat Mivea
RBN - Reborn
Bleeding Shot causes a Mind Bleed, not Health, I believe. Use it in conjunction with Eye Shot. Stick all those other Health Bleeds on as well, though, since they tend to have a significant psychological effect on your opponent.
Alepe
Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:56 pm
#9
Uthyr,
That is great information. I had no idea that a health shot 2 could actually be a mind bleed. Thanks for the post.
Uthyr
Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:48 pm
#10
Alepe wrote:
Uthyr,
That is great information. I had no idea that a health shot 2 could actually be a mind bleed. Thanks for the post.
Alepe,
I'm glad to have provided some useful info for you, but I think you misunderstood (or did I mis-speak?)... Health Shot 2 is definitely not a mind bleed. I was talking about Bleeding Shot, which is apparently a random-pool bleed.
riotcontrol
Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:08 am
#11
Uthyr wrote:
RenKesson wrote:Bleeding Shot causes a Mind Bleed, not Health, I believe. Use it in conjunction with Eye Shot. Stick all those other Health Bleeds on as well, though, since they tend to have a significant psychological effect on your opponent.
Again I'll paste a quote I made in an earlier thread, just to clear up any misconceptions:BleedingShot is not exclusively a Mind DoT. It bleeds all three HAMs. I confirmed that today with a field test, where I shot several perleks, each with a single BleedingShot and then peacing, and watched the ticks. Most of the time, all 3 pools seemed to tick at about the same rate (I didn't actually measure them--this is just my casual observation). Once, I saw only Action and Mind tick, and Health did not tick at all over the course of a couple of minutes.This is not the first time I've seen people state that Bleeding Shot is a mind-only bleed. I am guessing it is mistakenly listed that way somewhere?
Actually, yes - on the Rem's SWG Damage Calculator page.
RenKesson
Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:53 am
#12
riotcontrol wrote:
Uthyr wrote:
RenKesson wrote:
Bleeding Shot causes a Mind Bleed, not Health, I believe. Use it in conjunction with Eye Shot. Stick all those other Health Bleeds on as well, though, since they tend to have a significant psychological effect on your opponent.
Again I'll paste a quote I made in an earlier thread, just to clear up any misconceptions:
BleedingShot is not exclusively a Mind DoT. It bleeds all three HAMs. I confirmed that today with a field test, where I shot several perleks, each with a single BleedingShot and then peacing, and watched the ticks. Most of the time, all 3 pools seemed to tick at about the same rate (I didn't actually measure them--this is just my casual observation). Once, I saw only Action and Mind tick, and Health did not tick at all over the course of a couple of minutes.
This is not the first time I've seen people state that Bleeding Shot is a mind-only bleed. I am guessing it is mistakenly listed that way somewhere?
Actually, yes - on the Rem's SWG Damage Calculator page.
Yes, that's where I got the information from, in conjunction with other players saying the same thing, but they may very well have gotten their information from Rem's as well.
Can anyone contact Rem to have him update? Or is he AWOL?
And on another thought, how is "DOT whore" a compliment? LOL
Message Edited by RenKesson on 11-26-2004 07:54 AM
Uthyr
Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:39 am
#13
RenKesson wrote:
Can anyone contact Rem to have him update? Or is he AWOL?
I just sent him an inter-server e-mail. Hopefully I got the syntax right when I entered his address.
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