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Thread: Need Advice on my B22

OrizCore
Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:57 pm
#1

Ill post my stats for everything. If you guys can give me any advice on how i can make her better I would appreciate it.


Reactor Level 1 Looted and Re-Ed


Mass -1285


Energy Generated - 11815


Engine Level 6 Prenerf


Drain-1559


Mass - 9303


YPR - 71, 70.4, 71.2


Speed - 95.9


Shield Level 7 Protecto-Net Re Shield


Drain - 1998


Mass - 15976


H/P - 1805 Front and back


Recharge 14.57


Front Armor


Mass- 5389


Armor - 795


Back Armor


Mass - 745


Armor - 279


Capicator Level 2 RE Job


Drain - 977


Mass - 1576


Cap Energy - 952


Cap Recharge Rate - 37.3


Booster Level 2 RE Job


Drain - 472


Mass - 1219


Energy - 1530


Recharge - 37.1


Consumption Rate - 135


Accel -32.2


Speed - 25.3


Droid Interface Worst component on my ship, really need a Prenerf


Drain - 490


Mass - 4987


Speed - 18.1


Weapon 1 RE Job of an Incom Tricannon


Drain - 2117


Mass - 25647


Damage - 2505-3876


Vs Shields - .680


Vs Armor - .692


Energy/Shot - 13.4


Refire Rate - .380


Weapon 2 Ionic Pulse Reward Gun RE


Drain - 1938


Mass - 14093


Damage - 1923-3152


Vs Shields - .660


Vs Armor - .620


Energy/Shot - 22.1


Refire Rate - .310


Mark III Proton Launcher


Drain - 956


Mass - 6k


Refire rate 8.8



Total mass is around 85000/90000. I really want to get a prenerf DI to shave off about 4k mass and put a CM launcher or possibly use two RE-ed Tri cannons.




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Alyxian
Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:07 pm
#2


Honestly, get a boltdriver RE gun, and go with the two cert 7 guns. Will give you plenty of room, possibly enough to wedge a better Cert 8 engine in as well as the chaff launcher.


You should also be able to get a better shield crafted to about 13k mass to shave off a bit more.


Message Edited by Alyxian on 07-06-2005 04:08 PM



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alyris
Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:26 pm
#3






OrizCore wrote:

Ill post my stats for everything. If you guys can give me any advice on how i can make her better I would appreciate it.


Engine Level 6 Prenerf


Drain-1559


Mass - 9303


YPR - 71, 70.4, 71.2


Speed - 95.9


Total mass is around 85000/90000. I really want to get a prenerf DI to shave off about 4k mass and put a CM launcher or possibly use two RE-ed Tri cannons.







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Bawa
Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:28 am
#4

looks alot like my setup its nice..

However, If it was my ship I would try an find a capacitor with higher stored energy..





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Coreena
Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:16 am
#5

Reactor: Get a Mark 1 crafted reactor. about same mass, 12.5k output.

Capacitor: There are level 2s around with 700ish mass or so, or others with 1000+ capacity.

Booster: Might want to check a level 1 crafted. 30 speed, but only for 8 seconds or so and recharge is low. Depends what you want it for.

DI: Wouldn't put to much hope into geting a pre-nerf. Might check out crafted, 1k mass for 20.x (mark 2), I think Mark 3 are about 2 or 3k mass, with 18-16 speed. Mark 4 is around 7k with faster than 15.





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KajaGrae
Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:40 am
#6


that front armor is a bit heavy for the amount of protection it provides. the plates I have on my ARC are 4.9k mass with 1100 armor (crafted by me). try checking with a SW to get a better set on that.


Shileds too. you might not get as good of a recharge, but im sure you could get similar F/B with around 13k mass


Message Edited by KajaGrae on 07-07-2005 02:42 AM




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agent156
Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:31 am
#7

38 recharge is doable on a lvl 2 cap, as are the other stats that came up earlier.

Better armor can be had, but your going have to ask for it and pay through the nose. Many SWs (like me) don't use server best resources on armor unless some one asks for something that matches a total load out.

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Goraf
Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:44 am
#8

You have a pretty good loadout, but there are a few improvements I can recommend.

Reactor - Go to a Mark I crafted. A good one is ~1275 mass ~12.5k generation

Shield - A Mark IV 1800 f/r can be crafted at 14.1k mass. Mark IV 1900 f/r is about 16.7. mass

Front armor - Mark III armor with no upgrade is about 925 armor and 5250 mass.

Back armor - This one is actually better than crafted. A Mark I reinforced is 280 armor 950 mass.

Booster - Yours provides 11.3 seconds of boost and recharges in 41 seconds. A Mark I crafted with overcharger can provide 9.5 seconds of boost and recharge in 39 seconds, speed 32. Crafted boosters are insanely customizable. Depending on what you want in a booster, crafted boosters can usually be made better than most RE jobs.

Droid interface - A high quality crafted Mark II is 1k mass 20 speed. Mark III is 2.6k mass 18 speed.

Proton launcher - The ones I make are 5.5k mass. Find a SW who can make you a better one. The refire rate comes from the missile pack, not the launcher, you can ignore that number. Only mass and drain matter.

Now, I actually run an REd booster on my B-22, but only because I wanted the big hotrod pipes sticking out the side. I sacrificed 500 mass to pimp up my ride. I use crafted boosters on my other ships. For PVP ships I go for acceleration before speed. For PVE ships I actually go for a 15 second boost at lower speed for travelling. For my Kryat I went with a 10-second boost with high acceleration for getting the hell out of there when a gunboat or vette spins on me.



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jason67
Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:08 am
#9

I would have to agree on the Reactor. Crafted Mark1 or Mark2 reactors are the way to go here.


Reactor - Mark1/Mark2 crafted


Engine - I personally find the prenerf engines to be one of the best options in this case so I think your doing well with that here


Shield - I would look for a better RE'ed shield, personally i would consider making room to fit the reward shields 2500/2500 at about 24k mass and good recharge with a nice RE job


Armor - This is definately an area that can hugely benefit by using RE'ed components. There are tons of RE'able armor platings out there, no reason not to use them. I have a couple armor platings that are roughly 1900-2k armor and only around 6-8k mass, you can also get some that are around 1200 armor with only around 3-4k mass so your really only using about half your potential in this area.


Booster - This is really only an average booster, so you can definately do better here if you desire. You can go crafted or RE'ed on this area, it's possible to get good boosters in both areas. I think for this style ship it's best to basically get the most bang for the buck, or getting best performance for extremely low mass. I Probably wouldn't put anything above the 4k mass in here unless it's got really nice stats, and would suggest keeping it under the 3k mark if possible. This is not usually deciding factor in battles (though still often useful)so is an area that is very flexible.


Droid Interface - Personally I use all prenerfs, I just happened to be lucky enough to get my hands on a few, but there are some very nice RE Jobs I have done on these as well. Pre-nerf is definately the way to go if you can swing it, but short of that you can still get a very nice lvl6-lvl8 droid interface with very good timers, and decent mass.


Proton Launcher - Personally I prefer to use this mass in other areas, I think it can be much more beneficial to use the extra mass on shields or weapons.


I also think your doing well with your weapons selection. If you can get your hands on another reward blaster like your second one listed here, that could also save you 10k mass to use in other areas while only minimally dropping your damage output. I think the Key is to balance out survival(shields) vs damage(weapons), you want to be doing more damage than your opponent and absorbing more of his shots with your shields than he is. In PvP it's mostly about manueverability since it really only takes 1-2 shots to kill another player even if both your weapons got dropped to about 3k damage each. And in PvE if you could drop down to 3k damage on both your weapons but save 10k mass in doing so, you could put in those 2500/2500 shields I mentioned above and do significantly better against higher end targets. In PvP once again the shields probably won't make much difference as they will still probably kill you in 1-2 shots, but in PvE it'll make a pretty significant difference.





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Goraf
Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:48 am
#10

I agree about the shield, I would downgrade the L8 weapon and fit in a L8 REd reward shield. Good luck getting down to 24k mass though. I know <30k mass L8 shields exist, but the lowest I have gotten is 30k. I think I have enough L8 shields to RE 2 reward shields, but all are >30k mass. Must...farm...more...loot...

An even-numbered RE level droid interface can have a slight edge on crafted. Level 6s fall in the 5k mass range for 16-17 speed. Crafted Mark III are slightly slower (18s) for 2.6k mass and Mark IV slightly faster (15s) for 6.5k mass. RE L2s generally suck. I am not sure about L4s, they should fall between Mark II and Mark III stats, so 1.5-2k mass and >20 speed I would guess. Anything else is not a recent drop. I have REd a couple L3 droid interfaces around 17 speed, but the fast one is always one I have bought off the bazaar or a vendor. That does not happen much these days, someone else is clearing out the bazaar every day before I can check it. I don't even look at anything that has less than 6d 20h beside it.

I really like RE level 4 armor myself, it can easily be REd to beat crafted for armor/mass. A 6k mass 2k armor plate sounds pretty sweet though Jason, I'll have to go through my armor stash.



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jason67
Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:07 am
#11






Goraf wrote:
I agree about the shield, I would downgrade the L8 weapon and fit in a L8 REd reward shield. Good luck getting down to 24k mass though. I know <30k mass L8 shields exist, but the lowest I have gotten is 30k. I think I have enough L8 shields to RE 2 reward shields, but all are >30k mass. Must...farm...more...loot...

An even-numbered RE level droid interface can have a slight edge on crafted. Level 6s fall in the 5k mass range for 16-17 speed. Crafted Mark III are slightly slower (18s) for 2.6k mass and Mark IV slightly faster (15s) for 6.5k mass. RE L2s generally suck. I am not sure about L4s, they should fall between Mark II and Mark III stats, so 1.5-2k mass and >20 speed I would guess. Anything else is not a recent drop. I have REd a couple L3 droid interfaces around 17 speed, but the fast one is always one I have bought off the bazaar or a vendor. That does not happen much these days, someone else is clearing out the bazaar every day before I can check it. I don't even look at anything that has less than 6d 20h beside it.

I really like RE level 4 armor myself, it can easily be REd to beat crafted for armor/mass. A 6k mass 2k armor plate sounds pretty sweet though Jason, I'll have to go through my armor stash.





Ya on that 6k mass 2k armor it was an old armor plate used to get the low mass. They no longer drop anywhere near that mass. It's really sad that they decay over time, I wish armor was treated like all other ship components as I made some really nice armor. And I've been saving an old lvl8 shield that's 25k mass hopefully after RE will be in the 24k mass range . I just need a few more shields to use for the RE on it and I'll be set. But your right the shields no longer drop with that low mass anymore.


Oh and it's probably me beating you to the vendors . There were a few times that I just went through and scoured the vendors for old prenerf items. I found a few prenerf droid interfaces for very cheap, and of course a few of my low mass items. There's really only one vendor that I've seen that has a pretty constant supply of newly looted items, all the others seem to just be kind of odds and ends thrown on ocassionally. But every time I got to the vendor that constantly gets restocked I end up spending mass loads of cash lol. They'll even put up a few lvl6 all the way up to lvl10 items. The only thing I can't seem to find are high end blasters, no one seems to sell these unRE'ed, and few sell them after they've been RE'ed. I've finally got just about enough blasters to RE one or two and can hardly wait lol. I'm hoping to get a bunch of lvl7 blasters for my grevious fighter (roughly 15k mass) and some lvl8-lvl10 blasters for my other ships. I've got the parts now to make a nice lvl8 blaster with 3600+ max and only 14k mass so I'm looking forward to RE'ing that one .







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Goraf
Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:16 am
#12

Ahhh, prenerf DIs, prenerf armor, prenerf engine, prenerf prenerf prenerf... We're discussing readily AVAILABLE parts here.

A 15k mass level 8 gun? I have never heard of one that light, are you sure that's not an RE level 7 part? 22k mass is achievable, 15k sounds too low. You'll have to post a screenshot of it so we can drool.

You can't find blasters because that is what everyone wants. I saw a L8 blaster on vendor search the other day, but by the time I got to the vendor it was gone. I stopped looking. It's more productive to just hit space.



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OrizCore
Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:47 am
#13

Thanks for the advice. The stuff in my ship that i was planning on changing were the DI, possibly the Reactor, and the Armor. The armor was actually just some stuff i had in my inventory from a day of part collecting and threw in to balance out the mass. I have a Reward Shield REed down to about 28k mass i could possibly squeeze in there. I could substitute a Level 6 gun i got REed for my reward gun and have enough mass for the reward shield. The level 6 gun is about 2700 damage with 9k mass.



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