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Thread: Need Advice on my B22
Reactor Level 1 Looted and Re-Ed
Mass -1285
Energy Generated - 11815
Engine Level 6 Prenerf
Drain-1559
Mass - 9303
YPR - 71, 70.4, 71.2
Speed - 95.9
Shield Level 7 Protecto-Net Re Shield
Drain - 1998
Mass - 15976
H/P - 1805 Front and back
Recharge 14.57
Front Armor
Mass- 5389
Armor - 795
Back Armor
Mass - 745
Armor - 279
Capicator Level 2 RE Job
Drain - 977
Mass - 1576
Cap Energy - 952
Cap Recharge Rate - 37.3
Booster Level 2 RE Job
Drain - 472
Mass - 1219
Energy - 1530
Recharge - 37.1
Consumption Rate - 135
Accel -32.2
Speed - 25.3
Droid Interface Worst component on my ship, really need a Prenerf
Drain - 490
Mass - 4987
Speed - 18.1
Weapon 1 RE Job of an Incom Tricannon
Drain - 2117
Mass - 25647
Damage - 2505-3876
Vs Shields - .680
Vs Armor - .692
Energy/Shot - 13.4
Refire Rate - .380
Weapon 2 Ionic Pulse Reward Gun RE
Drain - 1938
Mass - 14093
Damage - 1923-3152
Vs Shields - .660
Vs Armor - .620
Energy/Shot - 22.1
Refire Rate - .310
Mark III Proton Launcher
Drain - 956
Mass - 6k
Refire rate 8.8
Total mass is around 85000/90000. I really want to get a prenerf DI to shave off about 4k mass and put a CM launcher or possibly use two RE-ed Tri cannons.
Honestly, get a boltdriver RE gun, and go with the two cert 7 guns. Will give you plenty of room, possibly enough to wedge a better Cert 8 engine in as well as the chaff launcher.
You should also be able to get a better shield crafted to about 13k mass to shave off a bit more.
Message Edited by Alyxian on 07-06-2005 04:08 PM
OrizCore wrote:
Ill post my stats for everything. If you guys can give me any advice on how i can make her better I would appreciate it.
Engine Level 6 Prenerf
Drain-1559
Mass - 9303
YPR - 71, 70.4, 71.2
Speed - 95.9
Total mass is around 85000/90000. I really want to get a prenerf DI to shave off about 4k mass and put a CM launcher or possibly use two RE-ed Tri cannons.
You've been at this longer than me, nothing I can add here![]()
Kirsha - Kettemoor
However, If it was my ship I would try an find a capacitor with higher stored energy..
Capacitor: There are level 2s around with 700ish mass or so, or others with 1000+ capacity.
Booster: Might want to check a level 1 crafted. 30 speed, but only for 8 seconds or so and recharge is low. Depends what you want it for.
DI: Wouldn't put to much hope into geting a pre-nerf. Might check out crafted, 1k mass for 20.x (mark 2), I think Mark 3 are about 2 or 3k mass, with 18-16 speed. Mark 4 is around 7k with faster than 15.
that front armor is a bit heavy for the amount of protection it provides. the plates I have on my ARC are 4.9k mass with 1100 armor (crafted by me). try checking with a SW to get a better set on that.
Shileds too. you might not get as good of a recharge, but im sure you could get similar F/B with around 13k mass
Message Edited by KajaGrae on 07-07-2005 02:42 AM
Better armor can be had, but your going have to ask for it and pay through the nose. Many SWs (like me) don't use server best resources on armor unless some one asks for something that matches a total load out.
I love your engine
Reactor - Go to a Mark I crafted. A good one is ~1275 mass ~12.5k generation
Shield - A Mark IV 1800 f/r can be crafted at 14.1k mass. Mark IV 1900 f/r is about 16.7. mass
Front armor - Mark III armor with no upgrade is about 925 armor and 5250 mass.
Back armor - This one is actually better than crafted. A Mark I reinforced is 280 armor 950 mass.
Booster - Yours provides 11.3 seconds of boost and recharges in 41 seconds. A Mark I crafted with overcharger can provide 9.5 seconds of boost and recharge in 39 seconds, speed 32. Crafted boosters are insanely customizable. Depending on what you want in a booster, crafted boosters can usually be made better than most RE jobs.
Droid interface - A high quality crafted Mark II is 1k mass 20 speed. Mark III is 2.6k mass 18 speed.
Proton launcher - The ones I make are 5.5k mass. Find a SW who can make you a better one. The refire rate comes from the missile pack, not the launcher, you can ignore that number. Only mass and drain matter.
Now, I actually run an REd booster on my B-22, but only because I wanted the big hotrod pipes sticking out the side. I sacrificed 500 mass to pimp up my ride.
I would have to agree on the Reactor. Crafted Mark1 or Mark2 reactors are the way to go here.
Reactor - Mark1/Mark2 crafted
Engine - I personally find the prenerf engines to be one of the best options in this case so I think your doing well with that here
Shield - I would look for a better RE'ed shield, personally i would consider making room to fit the reward shields 2500/2500 at about 24k mass and good recharge with a nice RE job
Armor - This is definately an area that can hugely benefit by using RE'ed components. There are tons of RE'able armor platings out there, no reason not to use them. I have a couple armor platings that are roughly 1900-2k armor and only around 6-8k mass, you can also get some that are around 1200 armor with only around 3-4k mass so your really only using about half your potential in this area.
Booster - This is really only an average booster, so you can definately do better here if you desire. You can go crafted or RE'ed on this area, it's possible to get good boosters in both areas. I think for this style ship it's best to basically get the most bang for the buck, or getting best performance for extremely low mass. I Probably wouldn't put anything above the 4k mass in here unless it's got really nice stats, and would suggest keeping it under the 3k mark if possible. This is not usually deciding factor in battles (though still often useful)so is an area that is very flexible.
Droid Interface - Personally I use all prenerfs, I just happened to be lucky enough to get my hands on a few, but there are some very nice RE Jobs I have done on these as well. Pre-nerf is definately the way to go if you can swing it, but short of that you can still get a very nice lvl6-lvl8 droid interface with very good timers, and decent mass.
Proton Launcher - Personally I prefer to use this mass in other areas, I think it can be much more beneficial to use the extra mass on shields or weapons.
An even-numbered RE level droid interface can have a slight edge on crafted. Level 6s fall in the 5k mass range for 16-17 speed. Crafted Mark III are slightly slower (18s) for 2.6k mass and Mark IV slightly faster (15s) for 6.5k mass. RE L2s generally suck. I am not sure about L4s, they should fall between Mark II and Mark III stats, so 1.5-2k mass and >20 speed I would guess. Anything else is not a recent drop. I have REd a couple L3 droid interfaces around 17 speed, but the fast one is always one I have bought off the bazaar or a vendor. That does not happen much these days, someone else is clearing out the bazaar every day before I can check it. I don't even look at anything that has less than 6d 20h beside it.
I really like RE level 4 armor myself, it can easily be REd to beat crafted for armor/mass. A 6k mass 2k armor plate sounds pretty sweet though Jason, I'll have to go through my armor stash.
Goraf wrote:
I agree about the shield, I would downgrade the L8 weapon and fit in a L8 REd reward shield. Good luck getting down to 24k mass though. I know <30k mass L8 shields exist, but the lowest I have gotten is 30k. I think I have enough L8 shields to RE 2 reward shields, but all are >30k mass. Must...farm...more...loot...
An even-numbered RE level droid interface can have a slight edge on crafted. Level 6s fall in the 5k mass range for 16-17 speed. Crafted Mark III are slightly slower (18s) for 2.6k mass and Mark IV slightly faster (15s) for 6.5k mass. RE L2s generally suck. I am not sure about L4s, they should fall between Mark II and Mark III stats, so 1.5-2k mass and >20 speed I would guess. Anything else is not a recent drop. I have REd a couple L3 droid interfaces around 17 speed, but the fast one is always one I have bought off the bazaar or a vendor. That does not happen much these days, someone else is clearing out the bazaar every day before I can check it. I don't even look at anything that has less than 6d 20h beside it.
I really like RE level 4 armor myself, it can easily be REd to beat crafted for armor/mass. A 6k mass 2k armor plate sounds pretty sweet though Jason, I'll have to go through my armor stash.
Ya on that 6k mass 2k armor it was an old armor plate used to get the low mass. They no longer drop anywhere near that mass. It's really sad that they decay over time, I wish armor was treated like all other ship components as I made some really nice armor. And I've been saving an old lvl8 shield that's 25k mass hopefully after RE will be in the 24k mass range
. I just need a few more shields to use for the RE on it and I'll be set. But your right the shields no longer drop with that low mass anymore.
Oh and it's probably me beating you to the vendors
. There were a few times that I just went through and scoured the vendors for old prenerf items. I found a few prenerf droid interfaces for very cheap, and of course a few of my low mass items. There's really only one vendor that I've seen that has a pretty constant supply of newly looted items, all the others seem to just be kind of odds and ends thrown on ocassionally. But every time I got to the vendor that constantly gets restocked I end up spending mass loads of cash lol. They'll even put up a few lvl6 all the way up to lvl10 items. The only thing I can't seem to find are high end blasters, no one seems to sell these unRE'ed, and few sell them after they've been RE'ed. I've finally got just about enough blasters to RE one or two and can hardly wait lol. I'm hoping to get a bunch of lvl7 blasters for my grevious fighter (roughly 15k mass) and some lvl8-lvl10 blasters for my other ships. I've got the parts now to make a nice lvl8 blaster with 3600+ max and only 14k mass
so I'm looking forward to RE'ing that one
.
A 15k mass level 8 gun? I have never heard of one that light, are you sure that's not an RE level 7 part? 22k mass is achievable, 15k sounds too low. You'll have to post a screenshot of it so we can drool.
You can't find blasters because that is what everyone wants.