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"Capital ships are comming in the next one. We can already have ship captains (any ace pilot), engineers (shipwrights), and pilots. We don't really have a need for security positions on these ships"

I seriously doubt Capital ships are coming. A Corvette? Maybe.. but it will resemble anything of a capital ship? No. It will have an interior, but the captain's chair will be a pilot's chair, the two pilot chairs at the front will be two co-pilot chairs and there'll be a few turrets. Thats all there will be.

There is no "being a captain" of a ship as you basicaly have no "crew" save a copilot and two gunners. The "engineers" are the "shipbuilders" ... "eningeers" are crewman that sit in engineering messing with your ship's engines. We wont get that, we get a copilot seat with "engine overload".

And you want what? In Star Wars, we don't tinker with engines, reverse the polarity of anything, or worry about the holodeck. Star Wars vs. Star Trek. Very few people live on their ships. They are war vessels. The closest thing we need to engineers are players to run around and repair conduits and such. And if you expect to see a group of four people running a Vette, I think you'll be very very mistaken.

"And you want what? In Star Wars, we don't tinker with engines, reverse the polarity of anything"

Go watch Empire Strikes Back. Tell me Han ISN'T tinkering with the hyperdrive. While ya at it, read several books from the Han series that describe in detail Han messing with the Falcon's engine to improve it. Then, while ya at it, further your dabbing with actual "Star Wars" cannon and see all the descriptions of an engineering deck of an ISD.

The "Star Wars" were never purely fighter vs fighter. There isn't even a single battle in any of the 6 movies that was fighter vs fighter. They ALL included captial ships or atleast a space station, and those captial ships and space stations required crews. And those crews had functions. And they were not sitting in a copilot's chair spamming "cap to shield".

This is a "ROLE PLAY" game, it is not a "COMBAT" game. Its about time the developers realise that and give it some "ROLE PLAY" aspects rather than dumping us with more versions of a combat system.

Things that could be done:

• Add an engineering room to these capital ships (the vette dungeon has one) and allow a player to enter an Engineering mini game to improve the capabilities of the engine.


• Add a sensor station where a pilot can enter a sensor mini game to pull off some kind of sensor relay trick or improved range or something


• Add a Captain's Chair that allows the person sitting in it to see some kind of birds-eye-view of an 8km-ranged map so that the captain of a ship can coordinate and plan strikes by seing the battle


• Allow other players to dock with the capital ship and board it


• Add a starship terminal inside the captial ship to allow players that have docked and boarded to launch.

Maybe then, things would be good. Maybe then we'd finaly have something in Space worthy of the title "Star Wars".

• Command your own starship!


• Have an entire guild crew your ship!


• Be an Engineer, a captain, a pilot or a security chief!


• Fly around 100's of systems taking on many different missions including lots of different forms of combat!


• Launch from your starship in shuttles and take them down to the planet's surface


• etc etc etc

Star Trek claims that they'll have "many different missions including lots of different forms of combat!", but in the end, all you'll ever have to do is reverse the polarity of something to finish the mission.

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Treena_Daal wrote:
Star Trek claims that they'll have "many different missions including lots of different forms of combat!", but in the end, all you'll ever have to do is reverse the polarity of something to finish the mission.

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Actually, their FOTM will be the "Wesley Crusher" template,the vulcans will all be spamming hate tells to every one, and the Klingons will be nerfed all to hell

Anyway, for the OP, sure they list having all that, as did SWG. But having it in a design document and having it actually programmed and playable are two different things. Trust me, they won't be launching with that.

maybe they will, maybe they wont, put the point is... why dont WE have it.

Because SOE knows how to keep these sorts of games running. If you give everyone everything at the begining, what's going to sell your expansion packs? Capital ships are comming in the next one. We can already have ship captains (any ace pilot), engineers (shipwrights), and pilots. We don't really have a need for security positions on these ships. Star Trek is not very likely to have much of a ground game, so "taking your shuttle down to the surface" is likely to spawn you in a very Kashyyyk-like zone where you can only wander so far. You'll need your away team to finish whatever mission they're on and get back up to your ship, probably with some sort of time limit to it. I'm curious about their claim of "lots of different forms of combat!", because there aren't that many things you can do. You can photon torpedo someone, or you can blast them with lasers. Or maybe fire tribbles into their cargo hold. The point is that I don't see "lots of different forms of combat!" panning out.

Could SWG be better? Yes. But don't start tossing around ideas from a design document and try to compare those to a finished game.

The short answer is that SOE caters to the masses.

Part of what makes Starwars good, is that it is a story centred around a few exceptional charters fighting against a huge and powerful enemy. Same for the Starwars single player games. Likewise for games like the Jedi Knight, or even Dark Force Rising.
In a MMO we cannot all be that one exceptional character, and if we all got the powers of Anakin know one would be special anyway and that would be the norm.

If Any truly persistent contend has to come from the player base, but we was never given the proper tool to create any. And that will never change, simply because there are less money in it shorterm.

My advice for anyone finding the game lagging in proper contend: If you wand to be part of a great story then join a guild of like minded individuals, and do you part to add to it as well.