Pilot Archive
Thread: Another Option for the Y-8
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HauKola
Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:37 am
#1
Amigos,
Since we are all still trying to come to grips on how best to use the Y-8 for crew-less mining, one of my guildies proposed the following idea:
Knowing that there is Mining-Grade equipment for the Y-8 only, why couldn't we also have a Y-8 only mining-laser/tractor beam combination weapon? I think it would play along with the Y-8 only specs of the other equipment already available and make this a solo or crew-served mining platform that would be quite worth the effort.
Tomo - and all, what do you think?
Cheers,
Message Edited by HauKola on 06-26-2005 09:39 AM
HauKola
Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:41 am
#4
I had apparently tabbed to submit while typing... this is still B.C. (before coffee) for me... sorry.
-HK-
SheenaBrelya
Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:35 am
#5
HauKola wrote:
Since we are all still trying to come to grips on how best to use the Y-8 for crew-less mining, ....
There's the problem. You are trying to come up with a way to use a multi-player ship .... by yourself. It's not supposed to work that way. A group mining in Y-8 *should* be more effective than each of the group's Pilots mining in fighters, but there is no reason that one person attempting to mine in a Y-8 should be any more effective than that one person mining alone in a fighter. In my opinion.
Shona
HauKola
Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:32 am
#6
I never said it had to go into the pilot's weapon slot. The reality is that this vessel is poorly configured and it's still relatively useless, even with a crew aboard to use the other weapon systems. You could just as easily remove the pilot's weapon and leave him with missiles for defense, like the YT-1300.
And yes... it should be more effective than a fighter at space mining... it is the Y-8 "Mining" ship. It was designed exclusively for mining, a starship was not. It should have an inherent advantage when mining, aside from the larger capacity cargo hold. At present... that is it's only real advantage.
I'm open to discussion if you have a better idea on how to make it more useful through legitimate suggestions.
-HK-
Ryushi78
Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:29 pm
#7
SheenaBrelya wrote:
HauKola wrote:
And yes... it should be more effective than a fighter at space mining... it is the Y-8 "Mining" ship. It was designed exclusively for mining, a starship was not.
That may be our difference of opinion. I do not believe that I should be able to use the Y-8 more effectively than I can use my fighter - not even to mine. I do believe that a group of player cooperating in a Y-8 should be able to use a Y-8 more effectively than the group flying fighters. I don't presume to say that this is true and that no modifications are necessary. I do, though, disagree with ideas whose intents are to make the Y-8 a more viable *single* player ship. It is statements like:
Since we are all still trying to come to grips on how best to use the Y-8 for crew-less miningthat I think are mis-guided attempts to turn group content in an MMO into single player content. My thoughts.
Shona
I actually disagree with you there Shona for one very simple reason. Why would a group of miners go out with a Y-8 ship when they can each take their fighter out and be mining more individually.
It stands to reason that each miner on board a Y-8 mining ship should be pulling in more yield than a miner using a fighter.
Otherwise the only reason to mine in a Y-8 is for the fun of it, which won't last very long.
Peeter-Griffin
Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:42 pm
#8
I already use my Y-8 by myself. I just put in the elite mining laser in the pilot weapon slot, and go mine. I just keep the engine speed at about half speed, a little less i think and it can turn like a fighter (strange in a ship that big but it just does) Does anyone else do this?
Although, ive noticed a bug recently when i am alone in the Y-8 btw. If you get within 100-200m then the mining laser wont work on it anymore, the asteroid wont make the flashing effect when you shoot at it like it should, and no chunks fly off.
Another bug, when an asteroid is generated (what i mean is when it explodes after being shot at for a long time) it may have only 3 medium sized chunks fly off at one time, or at least i think its 3. But when you let one fly away without destroying it, the limit goes to 2. Let another go, 1, let the last go, none. Then you have to destroy the asteroid.
Ive submitted bug reports on this but i dont think theyve done anything. Although i just mined a couple days ago and stopped because of the first bug. Im not sure if they fixed the second one. I just hopeone of the dev's will see this instead of me sitting here wondering if anyone read my bug reports...
SheenaBrelya
Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:14 am
#9
HauKola wrote:
And yes... it should be more effective than a fighter at space mining... it is the Y-8 "Mining" ship. It was designed exclusively for mining, a starship was not.
That may be our difference of opinion. I do not believe that I should be able to use the Y-8 more effectively than I can use my fighter - not even to mine. I do believe that a group of player cooperating in a Y-8 should be able to use a Y-8 more effectively than the group flying fighters. I don't presume to say that this is true and that no modifications are necessary. I do, though, disagree with ideas whose intents are to make the Y-8 a more viable *single* player ship. It is statements like:
Since we are all still trying to come to grips on how best to use the Y-8 for crew-less miningthat I think are mis-guided attempts to turn group content in an MMO into single player content. My thoughts.
Shona
HauKola
Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:27 pm
#10
Based upon the fact that the mining lasers and tractor beams do not mount in the same point and the fact that it takes two people to use them, we must consider a solution. Each weapon station on the Y-8 should be equipped with a mining laser/tractor beam combination. I guarantee that three players in fighters can mine more ore quicker than a crewed Y-8, even considering the difference in cargo holds and the need to off-load and transitmore often.
I simply find it pathetic that a tier 2starfighter can outmine a master level ship which was designed for mining. Back to the topic at hand... what about an elite mining laser/tractor beam combo that is only equippable on the Y-8?
-HK-
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