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Thread: Pilot Helper List Question

faarsider
Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:18 am
#1


I have been on the Pilot Helper List for awhile nowfor my server.

For me helping others is something I like doing and enjoy helping those that are having problems.


Recently I have had more than a few tells from people asking for help which is no bad thing in itself. ok so I go launch meet them help them thru a mission I thought they were having problems with then soon as its done I get the "I will just go get my next mission". I will refuse to help someone at this point as I don't feel running missions for someone,when they have not even tried to do it on there own is helpful to them in the long run.


Am I being harsh insisting on pilots at least attempting their missions before sending a tell for assistance?.





Message Edited by faarsider on 06-27-2005 09:42 AM

Alarien
Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:51 am
#2

I don't think that's harsh at all. You aren't a quest/mission mule.


Just tell them its time for you to take a break and to let you know if they cannot make it through another quest.


I had some guy on Starsider, (nice guy actually) go into full on hysterics on how hard a tier 4 mission was and how he couldn't get through it. I let him vent for a few, but couldn't help him because I was in a ground exp group. InsteadI asked him a few questions about his tactics and thenI let him in on the big secret of droid programs. He got his master recently I think.


Sometimes being a help doesn't mean flying a mission for someone, so don't feel obligated to.



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Kryxal
Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:47 am
#3

Being a helper isn't like helping each other, I'd say ... for helping each other, I'd say you SHOULD do that second mission, but just helping somebody out, give them a chance to try.



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Bronski113
Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:51 am
#4

I like to help but I don't like getting tells for people wanting me to take them up in a 2 person ship so they can get higher xp. That is not what i consider help.



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Attacca
Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:04 am
#5

That's why I've never listed myself on a helper thread - most people don't seem to want help, they want their hands held.


My favorites are the ones who come to you black barred (lots of wounds) and ask nicely - you know they've tried themselves, even though they failed. They're also usually interested in learning about flying and take advice, instead of talking to me in leet speak.


I'm also almost to the point of refusing to help people until they try droid programs first...considering the difference a good flight computer makes, most people wouldn't need help if they didn't ignore that fourth tree.







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Narrganocca
Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:47 am
#6

Must agree with Attaca


I get tells for help almost every weekend I am on and usually I start by asking what I consider the normal questions. Do they use droid programs? if no, then explain how to do it and have them try again, I generally don't hear from that person again, so I assume they must have worked out ok. Sometimes the person has used droid programs and still cant do it, thats cool, I will fly thier mission with them...Missions are more fun with two people, and sometimes having a wingman to peel bandits off your butt is a good thing.


What I hate is people that you can tell haven't tried the mission. I had one guy ask me for help putting together his Xwing. no problem, I helped him outfit it. He next asks me to assist him in a tier 3 mission. I told him I would not unless he tried first. He tried to coax me, I still said no. He went and died at it once, then sent me a whiny tell of "I told you it was too hard and I needed help, now my Xwing has decayed because of you" I told him he definately wasn't getting any help from me after that remark to which he promptly apologized and I helped him thru it. Then he wants me to do his next mission for him, I say no, he starts cursing me out and complaining about how he isn't good enough to do it and I should help him since we are both rebels etc etc. I told him he had to learn to be a better pilot on his own, having me obliterate his missions wasn't gonna make him a capable pilot. Told him to practice on tier 4 spawns in Dathomir space


I told him later that I would help him do his tier 4 exit quests after he had tried each and every one of them first, and if he did not ask for assistance thru tier 3. Next time I even heard from the guy he had soloed everything up to the vette and had even attempted that. He told me he had worked hard at it and soloed tier 4, even tho he glassed 2 chassis in the process. I now fly patrols with him regularly in Deepspace and I consider him to be almost as good a pilot as myself (had to throw in the ego boost!)


Sometimes helping someone means forcing them to help themselves





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CNevyn
Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:08 am
#7






Narrganocca wrote:

Must agree with Attaca


Sometimes helping someone means forcing them to help themselves








I'm also in agreement. If they haven't even tried the mission, I won't consider helping. But if I've the time, and they're willing to listen, I'm more than happy to go over their loadout with them, as well as droid programs. "You don't have an astromech/flight comp??" sometimes that still shocks me. But, I've had quite a few who went up and beat their mission after such a discussion, and are developing nicely.

hehe 'course this talk also tends to generate business for our shop. "Do you know where I can get these?" "Well as a matter of fact I do. One of my business partners is a shipwright, and..."



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