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Thread: lvl6/lvl7 weapons
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Currently I use a Lvl 8 RE'd Borstel;
My lvl 7 RE is a good deal wimpier than your lvl 6;
- Drain 1882
- Mass9769
- Dmg 1893 - 2707
- Vs. Shields .66
- Vs. Armor .67
- Energy P. 26.6
- Refire Rate .39
- Attacks Per Second 2.56
- Adjusted DPS Vs. S/A 3199 - 4574
- Mass / Adjusted DPS Ratio .327 - .468
I've made quite a few Bad lvl 7 RE's, and never saw Lvl 6's as being quite as nice as some see them. I'm currently collecting level 6 weapons, though, out of the dozen or so I have, not a one approaches the pre - RE max dmg needed to hit 2800.
entrailsgalore2 wrote:
....and I beleieve its been calculated and faster refire tends to have a better DPWS than a higher dmg gun of the same lvl...
Don't just believe it, plenty of calculators around these days. Run your guns throught it. My RE'd level 7 guns are equal in dmg output to a well crafted level 9 at roughy a third of the mass. With every stat different this isn't obvious.
In general decent RE'd guns beat crafted gunsone level higher, even when the crafted has a refire of .250
I agree 100%, Washell. "The Crafted Are Uber" slogan is something that Many Pure ShipWrights take for granted, but, a faster refire rate with significantly lower Effectiveness does not a better weapon make, and crafted have Much less effectiveness than a good RE. In order for a crafted weapon to beat my RE'd Borstel, keeping it's effectiveness the same, it would have to haveclose tothe same damage stats as mine.
Crafted Weapon with;
- Dmg2244.98 - 3471.94
- Vs. Shields .499
- Vs. Armor .499
- Refire Rate .250
That is one heck of a crafted Weapon, far in excess of what a lvl 7 Crafted is capable of and, at the max of what a lvl 9 can be done for, but at a much greater cost in Mass.
Level 7:
Drain: 2396
Mass: 14717
Dmg: 1535-2555
vShield/Armour: 0.483
EPS: 26.8
Refire: 0.263
Attacks per Sec: 3.80
Adjusted dps v S/A: 2817-4689
Mass/ Adj Dmg: 0.191-0.319
Level 9:
Drain: 2499
Mass: 36415
Dmg: 1911-3331
v Shield/Armour .483
EPS: 29.6
Refire: 0.254
Attacks per Sec: 3.94
Adjusted dps v S/A: 3636-6339
Mass/ Adj Dmg: 0.1-0.174
Whilst my figures come out slightly nicer than yours, there is another thing you need to factor in....
The Mass on your LVL8 is almost double that of my LVL 7's. Try slapping in 2 LVL7 and see how much more damage you do. a single level 8 will not hit as often as 2 level 7's (in a grievous or JSF, firing 2 blasters at almost 4 times/sec, one of em usually hits).
When I fly my small fighters, I only use crafted Level 7 weapons as they perform much better, especially if they have 2 blaster points. The RE'd stuff sits better in larger ships such as POB or my Krayt gunship, but for 90% of my space flight I use crafted weapons.
off I go.Crafted guns fit a different role than REd guns.
The faster is better mantra generally applies to PvP, since how hard you hit is less important than how often.
In PvE pumping out effective damage is key, and the higher effectiveness and damage of an REd gun make up for the lower refire.
Figured I throw in some stats and calculations, copy/paste from my post on sw forum.
4 guns I own:
Level 7 RE'dBoltdriver
Drain: 1931.5
Mass: 14093.7
Dmg: 1986.7 - 3071.7
vs S/A: 0.620/0.630
EPS: 23.0
Refire: 0.310
Attacks/sec: 3.22
Adj. DPS vs S/A: 4005.5 - 6192.9
Mass/Adj. dmg: 0.284 - 0.439
Average dmg: 5099.1
Level 8 RE'd Tricannon
Drain: 1987.0
Mass: 22334.4
Dmg: 2507.0 - 3877.0
vs S/A: 0.690/0.690
EPS: 13.4
Refire: 0.370
Attacks/sec: 2.70
Adj. DPS vs S/A: 4675.2 - 7230.0
Mass/Adj. dmg: 0.209 - 0.323
Average dmg: 5952.6
Level 10 RE'd
Drain: 1842.4
Mass: 40735.0
Dmg: 2829.2 - 4740
vs S/A: 0.790 - 0.810
EPS: 27.2
Refire: 0.380
Attacks/sec: 2.63
Adj. DPS vs S/A: 5956.2 - 9978.9
Mass/Adj. dmg: 0.146 - 0.244
Average dmg: 7967.5
Drain: 2474.9
Mass: 36614.0
Dmg: 1915.7 - 3338.7
vs S/A: 0.480/0.480
EPS: 29.5
Refire: 0.250
Attacks/sec: 4
Adj. DPS vs S/A: 3678.1 - 6410.3
Mass/Adj. dmg: 0.100 - 0.175
Average dmg: 5044.2